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British reaping what they sowed

I've seen enough of his ignorance before to know he isn't looking for discussion.
He might not be, but I don't think his thought is ignorant in this case. England has been taking in hundreds of thousands of immigrants, and now they are dealing with a firestorm. People have admitted to noticing strange things but never reported them for fear of being labeled politically incorrect. It's a major problem and needs to be discussed at the very least
 
He might not be, but I don't think his thought is ignorant in this case. England has been taking in hundreds of thousands of immigrants, and now they are dealing with a firestorm. People have admitted to noticing strange things but never reported them for fear of being labeled politically incorrect. It's a major problem and needs to be discussed at the very least
Agree on all points.
 
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He might not be, but I don't think his thought is ignorant in this case. England has been taking in hundreds of thousands of immigrants, and now they are dealing with a firestorm. People have admitted to noticing strange things but never reported them for fear of being labeled politically incorrect. It's a major problem and needs to be discussed at the very least
Correct. They don't/won't assimilate and it's a huge problem.
 
He might not be, but I don't think is thought she ignorant in this case. England has been taking in hundreds of thousands of immigrants, and now they are dealing with a firestorm. People have admitted to noticing strange things but never reported them for fear of being labeled politically incorrect. It's a major problem and needs to be discussed at the very least
I agree that PC can be too much at times. I also think Islam has a problem that it needs to fix. But (not directed at you) I don't think taking in immigrants that are Muslim is a problem. The world is a dangerous place but we shouldn't shutter our doors and windows bc of terrorism. Groups like ISIS want us to make it Democracy vs Islam.
 
I agree that PC can be too much at times. I also think Islam has a problem that it needs to fix. But (not directed at you) I don't think taking in immigrants that are Muslim is a problem. The world is a dangerous place but we shouldn't shutter our doors and windows bc of terrorism. Groups like ISIS want us to make it Democracy vs Islam.
I would agree that they aren't all bad. I actually feel for the ones who don't want to kill me. The problem is that it's so hard to tell the difference, it's risky as hell to take any of them. If I handed you a handful of pecans, and told you that only 1 of the ten will kill you, would you eat any of them? I don't think I would.

The problem in this country is that we aren't even being allowed to extreme vet the immigrants. Every temporary ban set forth by this administration has been struck down, even though every president in modern times have done he same thing. We need to be damn sure these people aren't coming to harm my family before letting a single one here. That's my opinion
 
I agree that PC can be too much at times. I also think Islam has a problem that it needs to fix. But (not directed at you) I don't think taking in immigrants that are Muslim is a problem. The world is a dangerous place but we shouldn't shutter our doors and windows bc of terrorism. Groups like ISIS want us to make it Democracy vs Islam.
I'm wondering why those of the Muslim faith who don't agree with terror, or it's perpetrators, continue to remain silent on the issue. Any sane person knows that all Muslims aren't terroists, but those who aren't, should be on the national stage condeming these acts on a daily basis, but their silence is deafening.
 
I thought religion and politics were grim bottom material. I have strong, conservative feelings on both but these threads are disastrous on here imo. ghg
 
I thought religion and politics were grim bottom material. I have strong, conservative feelings on both but these threads are disastrous on here imo. ghg
I think most of us are adult enough to handle discussion. Those that aren't shouldn't open the thread, much less post
 
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I would agree that they aren't all bad. I actually feel for the ones who don't want to kill me. The problem is that it's so hard to tell the difference, it's risky as hell to take any of them. If I handed you a handful of pecans, and told you that only 1 of the ten will kill you, would you eat any of them? I don't think I would.

The problem in this country is that we aren't even being allowed to extreme vet the immigrants. Every temporary ban set forth by this administration has been struck down, even though every president in modern times have done he same thing. We need to be damn sure these people aren't coming to harm my family before letting a single one here. That's my opinion
Well I don't think 1/10 Muslims are terrorists. We do a very good job of vetting. We also have the benefit of being on the other side of the Atlantic. Immigrants and refugees commit crime at a much lower rate than natives. While I agree that almost all of these terrorist acts are committed by muslims, that doesn't mean we need to paint with too broad a brush. If we make it us vs them, we play into their hands. They hate Muslims living a western lifestyle in the western world. What we're doing is working. You're going to have terrorism. It's not worth abandoning out civil liberties and founding principles just to be (maybe) a little more safe.
 
I'm wondering why those of the Muslim faith who don't agree with terror, or it's perpetrators, continue to remain silent on the issue. Any sane person knows that all Muslims aren't terroists, but those who aren't, should be on the national stage condeming these acts on a daily basis, but their silence is deafening.
I agree. Ultimately it's a problem they have to fix internally. No amount of military action or vetting will fix it. We've got to try to support the liberal and moderate ones to do that and try to stop the fundamentalist ones from doing damage to us.
 
1/10 may not be terrorists themselves, but they support the same ideology. That's the danger. I don't think there is any question that more vetting makes us safer, no maybe about it. Like I said earlier, every president has done the same thing in one former or the other, this one just gets labeled a racist for doing it
 
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Couldn't reply to Trey's explanation on the Edge, but wanted him (and other's) to know I wasn't complaining, just didn't understand how it worked. Makes perfect sense. Thanks for explaining Trey.
 
Well I don't think 1/10 Muslims are terrorists. We do a very good job of vetting. We also have the benefit of being on the other side of the Atlantic. Immigrants and refugees commit crime at a much lower rate than natives. While I agree that almost all of these terrorist acts are committed by muslims, that doesn't mean we need to paint with too broad a brush. If we make it us vs them, we play into their hands. They hate Muslims living a western lifestyle in the western world. What we're doing is working. You're going to have terrorism. It's not worth abandoning out civil liberties and founding principles just to be (maybe) a little more safe.

You obviously havnt read the Quran, anyone who follows its writings is arguably a radical Islamist. There is no way to twist it or make escuses for it. A Muslim must throw 60% of the Quran out to be a decent human being. terriost are simply following the Quran. Thankfully Christians don't litterally follow the Bible
 
people don't have to escalate this to where it has to be moved.

people know how to push others buttons and they don't have to do that.

people don't all have the same knowledge on some subjects and that can be frustrating so you should try and make your point in a way to educate.

Tokyo does not really have problems with terrorist :)
 
Thanks, you always seem to have an opinion about issues and wanted to see if your employment influences your opinions. You will have job security the rest of your life.
 
Thanks, you always seem to have an opinion about issues and wanted to see if your employment influences your opinions. You will have job security the rest of your life.
I guess I have lots of influences, I find stuff like this important
 
Well I don't think 1/10 Muslims are terrorists. We do a very good job of vetting. We also have the benefit of being on the other side of the Atlantic. Immigrants and refugees commit crime at a much lower rate than natives. While I agree that almost all of these terrorist acts are committed by muslims, that doesn't mean we need to paint with too broad a brush. If we make it us vs them, we play into their hands. They hate Muslims living a western lifestyle in the western world. What we're doing is working. You're going to have terrorism. It's not worth abandoning out civil liberties and founding principles just to be (maybe) a little more safe.
Why shouldn't we paint it with a broad brush? If you or any other American go to a an Islamic country you are highly restricted in what you can do or what you can say. You either assimilate and lose your religious freedom or take the risk of death. However in our homeland you want our freedoms but do not want to assimilate. All I can say thank god for Trump, you may hate him but he is genuinely putting Americans first. By the way I am an American not a racist or any other term someone wants to place on me but I do have the right to make a choice.
 
people don't have to escalate this to where it has to be moved.

people know how to push others buttons and they don't have to do that.

people don't all have the same knowledge on some subjects and that can be frustrating so you should try and make your point in a way to educate.

Tokyo does not really have problems with terrorist :)
That is what our country has turned to. We cannot have discussions any more without someone pushing there agenda with derogatory comments or violence.
 
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