I just feel like the moment you make “IHateLibtards” capable of creating liability for your company, you’ll have to moderate the shit out of that poster.
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Section 230 from my understanding allows for companies to own free speech platforms. The issue conservatives claim is they filter them so it isn't free speech and they are double dipping.
The changes conservatives are hoping to make, make them decide, is it free speech or are you liable. It is one or the other but you can't have both.
This is exactly how I understand it. You think it’s bad now, just wait until they are forced to remove stuff by the Government and we will really know what censorship is.
I feel ya. I like the simplicity of it, but yeah it’s not for everyone.
I think it is less of that and more slander against individuals, misreporting, etc...
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I feel like it's being talked about more in light of the events in DC as a way to police places that allowed for planning on events, but without specific language it could be used for as number of any reasons nobody really thinks about.
I agree on everything except the government. It would be the private company that would have to remove it.
Big Tech uses 230 to state that they aren’t publishers. As just a simple forum, they have no responsibility for what “IHateLibtard” says. So he/she can say, “Obama blew up the twin towers...” which is wrought with libelous claims, it gets 10k likes, but nothing can be done about it.
You make Twitter a publisher, they are then in turn responsible for deciding whether or not to keep it or not. So you’d have to have a massive search index created for any term you can think of, review the comments that pop up in that search and then make an affirmative decision on all of them. With like 30 million DAU, I doubt that’s possible without some sort of AI that just zaps it without even deciding good or bad.
I’m probably talking above my head, just thinking out loud.
Taken from Wikipedia, so grain of salt and all, but it appears to agree with your assessment.
Section 230(c)(2) provides immunity from civil liabilities for information service providers that remove or restrict content from their services they deem "obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected", as long as they act "in good faith" in this action.
I think you are correct except in reality it is cool to say "Bush caused 911" but not cool to say "Obama wasn't born in America"
So they are acting as a publisher but protected under 230. This is the issue conservatives are bringing up. The changes are supposed to make them choose. Allow it all or be held accountable their choice.
I think I’m focusing on the latter portion and didn’t incorporate the first portion of your last sentence.
Good point.
Every time Rivals takes away some form self-policing from tMB they’ve only made it worse. At some point it’s going to reach a point of no return.
It’s the only thing worth paying for on Rivals, so I’m sure it’s not an insignificant number of people that would leave the more Rivals bastardizes it.
It’s the only thing worth paying for on Rivals, so I’m sure it’s not an insignificant number of people that would leave the more Rivals bastardizes it.
That is one way of looking at it. There are also plenty of neocons with a few QAnon freaks sprinkled in as well.
Damned if you do... Damned if you don’t with big tech. I saw the loons on Twitter talking all this stuff about showing up January 6, starting a revolution, taking out the Dems, pence, romney, the rinos, and McConnell. Most blew it off, including me. Then we all saw what happened. Domestic terrorism is a huge threat right now. The far right radicals, white nationalists, and “militias” aka crazy ass white people are wound up. But we also got a problem with eco terrorists, and the crazies in Portland. Social media and letting people spout conspiracy theories and propaganda is causing people to become radicalized. I don’t blame them deleting people with a presence sharing that shit. If uncle Jim Bob or Aunt Janice shares 100 people might see it and blow it off as them being crazy. But when people with a presence and those in respected positions share it and spread it then you can radicalize people. This can lead to domestic terrorism like we saw Tuesday.
Like democratic leaders going on talk shows and applauding looting of stores? I agree
New board is fantastic and already has over 800 members. Mods are members.
That and the chat forum will collapse TMB.
That and the chat forum will collapse TMB.
Yeah, they’ve gotta get back to only moderating the absolute worst/egregious things, and whether the topic is “true” or not, if it’s being discussed in the MSM or popular culture, speculating on the topic, regardless of the side you are on, should be acceptable.
In addition to rules, they should incorporate a series of questions moderators are trained to think through that are designed to avoid the moderation of content based on personal biases.
A set of rules in isolation allows for subjective enforcement, particularly if they aren’t clear cut.
I was gunna delete politics posts but just decided to move the thread so have at it!
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Eh...she did the opposite of what you’re talking about. She put it in the place it goes when politics enter. I get it.
Can I ask a question? Most people have a problem with what some black lives matters protesters did. They turned it into a riot. Looters and anarchists should go to jail. Peaceful protestors should not. Have you heard anyone attack the people who didn’t charge the capitol? I have not. There were people there to protest. They have that right. Where that right stopped was when they charged the capitol. That became sedition and domestic terrorism. When people loot buildings and burn them they should go to jail. There’s bad actors in both parties. There’s good moral people in both parties. But anyone who burns down a store or charges the US capitol is not a good person. They’re radical and deserve to be charged.
There's been 15 new threads in about a week. Finally a true discussion appears and it gets sent to the bottom.
How about not being a lazy ass and delete the 4 political posts.
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
She deletes those post and she’s part of the problem. She actually keeps the posts and allows you the opportunity to bash her and the site, she’s a lazy ass for not just deleting the posts.
I think everything is pointing in the wrong direction, but I wouldn’t say this board is when it comes to censorship. The fact you’re able to say what you have in the past 3-4 messages should be the evidence for you.
I think they would be basic television standards on censorship and cut any personal attacks against individuals. Other than seems like fair game or...... Be a publisher
like potus you change your story only when it
You’re blind to the bigger/whole picture, that’s the problem
The issue is those 4 posts turn into 8, then 16, etc.
this thread is where it belongs now.
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Man your spouting off the words of the moment, aka “domestic terrorists” and “sedition “. The msm got to you good! You’re missing one though.
Coup.
Lol
New site is cool, not a ton of recruiting stuff yet but a lot of tMB content without censorship.
There’s a go fund to donate if you join and want to contribute - free if you don’t want to.
Free speech is alive and well there
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Very easy to cancel your Rivals sub if you want to move
There’s a go fund to donate if you join and want to contribute - free if you don’t want to.
Free speech is alive and well there
Crootn.com
Very easy to cancel your Rivals sub if you want to move
