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[anon_j0hjgb7us6s1a]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...e-future-of-tv-and-they-re-not-really-into-it

ESPN Has Seen the Future of TV and They’re Not Really Into It
As more fans cut the cord and go mobile, the network is busy protecting its cable-TV money machine.

 

[AtlantaRazorback]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...e-future-of-tv-and-they-re-not-really-into-it

ESPN Has Seen the Future of TV and They’re Not Really Into It
As more fans cut the cord and go mobile, the network is busy protecting its cable-TV money machine.

They will see the light soon. Just not at a breaking point. But there is a reason that HBO, Showtime, Starz have all put apple tv apps up and allow subscriptions separately to them. They see cable waning. ESPN will do an app in the next year or so and it will instantly get more subscribers than any other pay tv app.

 

[theWizard12]

Great article.

Also, **** espn

 

[DaRazorback]

The scary thing is thinking about what happens when the conference networks contracts come up? They could be not renewed causing universities to lose 20-30 million a year in income.

 

[PorkshankRedemption]

The scary thing is thinking about what happens when the conference networks contracts come up? They could be not renewed causing universities to lose 20-30 million a year in income.

Not going to happen. The SECNetwork is one of their only successful network streams.

 

[mtsuhog85]

The scary thing is thinking about what happens when the conference networks contracts come up? They could be not renewed causing universities to lose 20-30 million a year in income.

I honestly could see the SEC becoming it's own TV product. The money is there for the startup, and the money is there taking. It's only a matter of time before they see it.

Call it SECTV.

 

[Stew-Man]

They will see the light soon. Just not at a breaking point. But there is a reason that HBO, Showtime, Starz have all put apple tv apps up and allow subscriptions separately to them. They see cable waning. ESPN will do an app in the next year or so and it will instantly get more subscribers than any other pay tv app.

ESPN has an app now, but it's a benefit extended based on either your internet provider or your cable/satellite provider. They are essentially able to develop it more fully & have real time data to work from because it was done in that way.

As HBO & others have decoupled their app from cable, I would expect ESPN to figure out how to do that too.

 

[anon_j0hjgb7us6s1a]

CNN could suffer.............

 

[PorkRyan12]

The scary thing is thinking about what happens when the conference networks contracts come up? They could be not renewed causing universities to lose 20-30 million a year in income.

Or that could be the time that Fox, CBS, or even Youtube takes over the college football market.

 

[Coward88]

Great article.

Also, **** espn

I don't get why people hate ESPN. I understand not liking a lot of the talking heads like Steven A, etc. but they offer a lot of good content.

 

[nehog]

No worries, all the free stuff will end. Whether it is cable or streaming, someone will figure out how to make money off of it. The streaming market is just not mature yet. . How funny would it be if Cable actually came down in price over time as streaming went up. It could happen....

 

[hpharri1994]

Being attached to cable isn't what is hurting ESPN. The problem is that there really isn't any reason to watch anymore outside of actual games. Growing up I would watch Sportscenter every day. Now I get scores and highlight in my sports apps or twitter feed in real time. They are essentially a media network and those are becoming more and more irrelevant over time. They have a ton of resources and will continue to have the rights to a lot of games so I'm sure they will be fine.

 

[hpharri1994]

I don't get why people hate ESPN. I understand not liking a lot of the talking heads like Steven A, etc. but they offer a lot of good content.

It goes back to the inferiority complex that so many Razorback fans have. ESPN doesn't shower us with praise every day so they must hate us. I don't think people realize how good we have it. We can watch every single Razorback game on television/app from anywhere in the world. Hardly anyone outside the SEC has it as good as we do. Try watching a random Big 12 basketball game on a Wednesday night. Half of them are nowhere to be found.

 

[RazorbackForever]

I don't get why people hate ESPN. I understand not liking a lot of the talking heads like Steven A, etc. but they offer a lot of good content.

They are too political. They are clearly pushing a liberal agenda and quite honestly I just don't like that. They should be "apolitical". I don't want bias from either side when I am watching sports or getting sports news.

 

[hpharri1994]

They are too political. They are clearly pushing a liberal agenda and quite honestly I just don't like that. They should be "apolitical". I don't want bias from either side when I am watching sports or getting sports news.

I see people say this all the time, yet I guarantee you the people that run ESPN are almost all conservatives. Can you give me some examples of ESPN clearly pushing a liberal agenda?

 

[RazorbackForever]

I see people say this all the time, yet I guarantee you the people that run ESPN are almost all conservatives. Can you give me some examples of ESPN clearly pushing a liberal agenda?

I know for a fact that your statement about the people running ESPN being conservatives is false. Examples are everywhere, everyday in their programming. I'm not going to turn this into a political rant but I am just looking for "apolitical" coverage of sports and I don't feel I get that with ESPN


Here is one article about uneven coverage but there are many more that I can find if you would like.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/david-whitley/os-sp-whitley-espn-blog0130-story.html

 

[Coward88]

I know for a fact that your statement about the people running ESPN being conservatives is false. Examples are everywhere, everyday in their programming. I'm not going to turn this into a political rant but I am just looking for "apolitical" coverage of sports and I don't feel I get that with ESPN

But outside of showing sporting events, everything else is editorial so you are going to get that person's political views, etc. I'm talking about what ESPN offers as far as watching sporting events. If they didn't exist, you'd be hating Fox, CBS, and NBC for the same thing. I say thank goodness for ESPN or we wouldn't have the amount of sports to watch on TV as we do. That's what I'm getting at. Hate the other stuff but to hate ESPN as a whole just because of that seems odd for I bet everyone that says they hate ESPN watch it on a weekly basis.

 

[RazorbackForever]

But outside of showing sporting events, everything else is editorial so you are going to get that person's political views, etc. I'm talking about what ESPN offers as far as watching sporting events. If they didn't exist, you'd be hating Fox, CBS, and NBC for the same thing. I say thank goodness for ESPN or we wouldn't have the amount of sports to watch on TV as we do. That's what I'm getting at. Hate the other stuff but to hate ESPN as a whole just because of that seems odd for I bet everyone that says they hate ESPN watch it on a weekly basis.

I tend to agree that ESPN has been really good for the sports world, I'm merely giving my critique of their main fault.

 

[wps88 2.0]

I honestly could see the SEC becoming it's own TV product. The money is there for the startup, and the money is there taking. It's only a matter of time before they see it.

Call it SECTV.

Or... CBS could buy it and call it SECBS... could also keep uncle Verne in the booth a little longer. He's awesome.

 

[hpharri1994]

I know for a fact that your statement about the people running ESPN being conservatives is false. Examples are everywhere, everyday in their programming. I'm not going to turn this into a political rant but I am just looking for "apolitical" coverage of sports and I don't feel I get that with ESPN


Here is one article about uneven coverage but there are many more that I can find if you would like.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/david-whitley/os-sp-whitley-espn-blog0130-story.html

That's an opinion piece by a conservative journalist. I'm curious about your opinion, not some guy whose most well known article is criticizing athletes for having tattoos. You seem to suggest that this is a concerted effort on a daily basis to push a liberal agenda. I would think that you could easily provide some examples of this that really bother you. I rarely watch ESPN outside of games so I don't see much of it.

 

[nychog]

I see people say this all the time, yet I guarantee you the people that run ESPN are almost all conservatives. Can you give me some examples of ESPN clearly pushing a liberal agenda?

Not that it really matters, but I lived just outside CT for a while and know/knew several people that worked there. Most execs (and employees in general) there are not conservative.

 

[HawgCaller1]

I see people say this all the time, yet I guarantee you the people that run ESPN are almost all conservatives. Can you give me some examples of ESPN clearly pushing a liberal agenda?

I hope you're joking

 

[hpharri1994]

I hope you're joking

Not at all. Feel free to cite your own examples. As I said, I rarely watch so I'm curious about specific incidents that bother people.

 

[hognation2007]

They will see the light soon. Just not at a breaking point. But there is a reason that HBO, Showtime, Starz have all put apple tv apps up and allow subscriptions separately to them. They see cable waning. ESPN will do an app in the next year or so and it will instantly get more subscribers than any other pay tv app.

They used to be have a app on Xbox and you could watch every game that espn was broadcasting of all sorts of different sports . You could pick your favorite team and go back watch old games and highlights of games . I used to watch all the baseball games on there but the app isn't there anymore and it sucks

 

[HawgCaller1]

Not at all. Feel free to cite your own examples. As I said, I rarely watch so I'm curious about specific incidents that bother people.

Don't really feel like I need to cite every example or spend a lot of time on this

If you ever watch first take max Kellerman has recently been talking about politics and how Russia interfierd with the election and robber Clinton.

Giving Caitlyn Jenner the Arthur Ashe courage award for heroism

Endorsing black lives matter at the espys

Firing curt schilling for not being more supporting of the transgender bathrooms law

ESPN seemed to sympathize with the anti-America actions of Colin Kapernick

The network turned a blind eye when panelist Kevin blackistone called the national anthem a "war anthem"

Recently ESPNW, the network’s womens sport website, gave sycophantic support to the Women’s March on Washington as though it was a bipartisan sporting event


Literally the list goes on and on and this is just if recent events

Just google "is espn liberal" or anything close to that.

How are you so blind on this topic?

 

[6s1769]

Not at all. Feel free to cite your own examples. As I said, I rarely watch so I'm curious about specific incidents that bother people.

Two words:

Kaitlin (?) Jenner

 

[hpharri1994]

Two words:

Kaitlin (?) Jenner

You mean longtime Republican and big Trump supporter Caitlyn Jenner?

 

[hpharri1994]

Don't really feel like I need to cite every example or spend a lot of time on this

If you ever watch first take max Kellerman has recently been talking about politics and how Russia interfierd with the election and robber Clinton.

Giving Caitlyn Jenner the Arthur Ashe courage award for heroism

Endorsing black lives matter at the espys

Firing curt schilling for not being more supporting of the transgender bathrooms law

ESPN seemed to sympathize with the anti-America actions of Colin Kapernick

The network turned a blind eye when panelist Kevin blackistone called the national anthem a "war anthem"

Recently ESPNW, the network’s womens sport website, gave sycophantic support to the Women’s March on Washington as though it was a bipartisan sporting event


Literally the list goes on and on and this is just if recent events

Just google "is espn liberal" or anything close to that.

How are you so blind on this topic?

It seems like your issue isn't so much a "liberal agenda" as much as you are just anti equal rights. It's 2017, most networks are embracing diversity and inclusiveness. Maybe you should stick to talk radio. I bet that more aligns with your ideology.

 

[Stew-Man]

Two words -- Grim Bottom

 

[HawgCaller1]

It seems like your issue isn't so much a "liberal agenda" as much as you are just anti equal rights. It's 2017, most networks are embracing diversity and inclusiveness. Maybe you should stick to talk radio. I bet that more aligns with your ideology.

Lol

ESPN’s viewership continues to slump. The sports cable network, majority owned by Walt Disney, is down to 87.8 million domestic subscribers according to just released figures from Nielsen. Subscriptions are decreasing each month.

ESPN has lost its primetime ratings crown to Fox News Channel and ratings of “Monday Night Football” are down 12% from the previous season.


Guess I'm not the only one buttercup...

 

[hpharri1994]

Lol

ESPN’s viewership continues to slump. The sports cable network, majority owned by Walt Disney, is down to 87.8 million domestic subscribers according to just released figures from Nielsen. Subscriptions are decreasing each month.

ESPN has lost its primetime ratings crown to Fox News Channel and ratings of “Monday Night Football” are down 12% from the previous season.


Guess I'm not the only one buttercup...

At least you've found yourself a safe space over there at Fox News.

 

[HawgCaller1]

At least you've found yourself a safe space over there at Fox News.

You have zero argument. Safe space argument? Embracing diversity argument which has called our national anthem a war anthem and supporting kapernick sitting down during our national anthem?? What a big slap to our veterans faces and a slap to americas face

https://www.google.com/amp/s/heatst...contributing-to-its-serious-viewer-slump/amp/



Sounds like it doesn't matter how much proof someone gives you. You just turn a blind eye as well. Starting to make sense.

 

[hpharri1994]

You have zero argument. Safe space argument? Embracing diversity argument which has called our national anthem a war anthem and supporting kapernick sitting down during our national anthem?? What a big slap to our veterans faces and a slap to americas face

https://www.google.com/amp/s/heatst...contributing-to-its-serious-viewer-slump/amp/



Sounds like it doesn't matter how much proof someone gives you. You just turn a blind eye as well. Starting to make sense.

Proof of what? Those are called opinions. People have differing ones about various topics. You are complaining because everyone on a TV channel doesn't share the same one as you.

 

[Coward88]

I tend to agree that ESPN has been really good for the sports world, I'm merely giving my critique of their main fault.

Makes sense for I don't critique them for any liberal views, but just for the idiotic rants and takes that a lot of their talking heads have. I love Sportscenter. Their 30 for 30 are some of the best sports documentaries I've ever seen, and I really like their E60 broadcasts as well.

 

[hpharri1994]

Makes sense for I don't critique them for any liberal views, but just for the idiotic rants and takes that a lot of their talking heads have. I love Sportscenter. Their 30 for 30 are some of the best sports documentaries I've ever seen, and I really like their E60 broadcasts as well.

For some reason that has become the sports programming model. Whether at ESPN, FS1, or anywhere else. They think we want to watch people argue about sports all day. Then that turns into people like Skip Bayless, Stephen A Smith, Clay Travis, etc. that are essentially just internet trolls on television.

I agree that the 30 for 30 stuff is excellent.

 

[HawgCaller1]

Proof of what? Those are called opinions. People have differing ones about various topics. You are complaining because everyone on a TV channel doesn't share the same one as you.

I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall.

I cited several examples of what has recently happened describing how ESPN is liberal based which is what you asked.

Then you said well networks are embracing diversity & inclusiveness.

See what I'm talking about????


I never said I was conservative nor liberal so it's funny how you're saying I have different views.

All I've been doing is citing you examples of how liberal based ESPN is and all you can say is words like "safe space on fox" and that "these are opinions" when clearly, I gave you real life examples and situations on how this is liberal based and not conservative based.


But that's fine. Usually what people do when they're wrong is try to divert the attention to something else which is what you've been doing in your arguments so far.

Good day sir

 

[Gosnell Hawg]

Breitbart has been covering this, and similar cases, for a while. If you're not familiar with the website give it a look.

 

[hpharri1994]

I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall.

I cited several examples of what has recently happened describing how ESPN is liberal based which is what you asked.

Then you said well networks are embracing diversity & inclusiveness.

See what I'm talking about????


I never said I was conservative nor liberal so it's funny how you're saying I have different views.

All I've been doing is citing you examples of how liberal based ESPN is and all you can say is words like "safe space on fox" and that "these are opinions" when clearly, I gave you real life examples and situations on how this is liberal based and not conservative based.


But that's fine. Usually what people do when they're wrong is try to divert the attention to something else which is what you've been doing in your arguments so far.

Good day sir

Would you like me to address each of those examples individually?

Max Kellerman: Russia did interfere with the election. That is a fact. Not sure why he is talking about it or in what context so it's hard for me to comment.

Caitlyn Jenner: Iconic sports figure that is the most well known transgender person on earth. Also happens to be a big Republican and Trump supporter. I'm unsure how giving her an award has anything to do with ESPN being liberal based?

BLM: ESPN did not endorse black lives matter. Some athletes at the ESPYs made comments about black lives matter. That isn't an endorsement from the network. That is allowing people at an awards show, that are unaffiliated with said network, to exercise their 1st Amendment right.

Schilling: He wasn't fired bc he didn't support transgender bathroom laws. He was fired for repeated incidents of posting/saying inflammatory and bigoted things about various minority groups. Something you'd get fired for at most jobs.

Kaepernick: You say "anti American" that is your opinion. You really seem to dislike the 1st Amendment. ESPN covered this story way too much, I agree. They had people that were against what he was doing, and those that agreed with his right to do it. I don't remember many sympathizing with any "anti American" views.

War Anthem: So one guy at ESPN has an opinion on the National Anthem being a war anthem. What would you like done there? Why would anyone care if he thinks that?

ESPNW: You watch/read a lot of ESPNW? I don't so I have no idea how they covered the women's march.

It seems to me that you allow your opinion on each of these issues to skew your view on the way they are covered in the media. That is clear by the way you presented them in this thread.

 

[hpharri1994]

Breitbart has been covering this, and similar cases, for a while. If you're not familiar with the website give it a look.

My computer automatically blocks spam websites so I can't access.

 

[HawgCaller1]

Would you like me to address each of those examples individually?

Max Kellerman: Russia did interfere with the election. That is a fact. Not sure why he is talking about it or in what context so it's hard for me to comment.

Caitlyn Jenner: Iconic sports figure that is the most well known transgender person on earth. Also happens to be a big Republican and Trump supporter. I'm unsure how giving her an award has anything to do with ESPN being liberal based?

BLM: ESPN did not endorse black lives matter. Some athletes at the ESPYs made comments about black lives matter. That isn't an endorsement from the network. That is allowing people at an awards show, that are unaffiliated with said network, to exercise their 1st Amendment right.

Schilling: He wasn't fired bc he didn't support transgender bathroom laws. He was fired for repeated incidents of posting/saying inflammatory and bigoted things about various minority groups. Something you'd get fired for at most jobs.

Kaepernick: You say "anti American" that is your opinion. You really seem to dislike the 1st Amendment. ESPN covered this story way too much, I agree. They had people that were against what he was doing, and those that agreed with his right to do it. I don't remember many sympathizing with any "anti American" views.

War Anthem: So one guy at ESPN has an opinion on the National Anthem being a war anthem. What would you like done there? Why would anyone care if he thinks that?

ESPNW: You watch/read a lot of ESPNW? I don't so I have no idea how they covered the women's march.

It seems to me that you allow your opinion on each of these issues to skew your view on the way they are covered in the media. That is clear by the way you presented them in this thread.

So back to your original arguments so you legit think ESPN is a conservative ran company??