Not guilty
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The prosecution's case went to crap quickly. Their own witnesses sided with Zimmerman. When the prosecutor was trying to get testimony struck from the record from witnesses he called, I knew what was about to happen.
Needless to say, this is the second major trial Florida has tried to over-prosecute, and it cost them.
Needless to say, this is the second major trial Florida has tried to over-prosecute, and it cost them.
Based on the evidence the jury came in with the right decision. I think Zimmerman should have paid a price for his frigging dumbass decisions that led to the shooting though. I've said before this that I am a shooter and have always had guns around but I just would not have shot that kid.
He'll probably be looking over his shoulder the rest of his life. If I were him, I'd move out of the U.S.
I agree with other posters that question why Zimmerman got out of his car, followed Martin, and didn't listen to the 911 dispatcher. I have not heard anyone question why Martin apparently confronted him and engaged Zimmerman. To me that is the same as Zimmermans actions, dumb but it doesn't mean intent to harm. To me the question is for the people defending Martin and why he apparently had the right to be on top of Zimmerman slamming his head into concrete? Regardless of how they got there, they both apparently made mistakes and they both could have prevented it. The only question left for me is could Zimmerman have legitimately been afraid for his life and its hard to not believe he was.
Sure wish people would get over the color thing and figure out how to respect others and not get in these predicaments. Also wish people would learn it is not acceptable to steal things. Not saying Trayvon was, just thinking about why they started that neighborhood watch. But because the Supreme Court has decided the police are not there to protect us and others think its OK to steal we have a mess on our hands.
Sure wish people would get over the color thing and figure out how to respect others and not get in these predicaments. Also wish people would learn it is not acceptable to steal things. Not saying Trayvon was, just thinking about why they started that neighborhood watch. But because the Supreme Court has decided the police are not there to protect us and others think its OK to steal we have a mess on our hands.
He wasn't having his head slammed into the concrete. His injuries didn't fit that part of his description of the altercation and even his defense attorneys said he exaggerated his own injuries. The altercation ended on grass.
The prosecutors blew this trial from day one. One has already been fired for with holding evidence from the defense. I have to believe there will be more.Originally posted by Hog6:
What sucks right this minute is the Florida prosecutors who are right nowing about how guilty Zimmerman really is. "We respect the jury but..."
With the evidence that was provided, I don't see how any other verdict could have been reached. Zimmerman was stupid for getting out of his car and following Martin, but Martin was stupid to confront Zimmerman as well. There was no definitive evidence (IMO) given that would allow for any other verdict (again, IMO).
This was entirely political. Charges should have never been brought, much less murder 2. They never had a chance.Originally posted by pkelley14:
The prosecutors blew this trial from day one. One has already been fired for with holding evidence from the defense. I have to believe there will be more.Originally posted by Hog6:
What sucks right this minute is the Florida prosecutors who are right now
There is also no proof that Martin is the one who confronted Zimmerman either. Only his word on that. When one party is dead you don't get the whole picture.
MR_
, so all of the witnesses (including the prosecution's own witnesses) that testified during the trial that said his injuries were consistent with having a head smashed against concrete were wrong?
, so all of the witnesses (including the prosecution's own witnesses) that testified during the trial that said his injuries were consistent with having a head smashed against concrete were wrong?2 things the person fired from the PA was the IT guy bc he felt that the prosecuting side was withholding evidence from the defense.
Also Mr Arkansas sadly when I did my conceal carry class they teach you to shoot to kill bc if you shoot someone you are gonna want your side of the story not both.
Also Mr Arkansas sadly when I did my conceal carry class they teach you to shoot to kill bc if you shoot someone you are gonna want your side of the story not both.
So, what is your theory on how Zimmerman got the broken nose and the cuts on the back of his head?Originally posted by MR_
There is also no proof that Martin is the one who confronted Zimmerman either. Only his word on that. When one party is dead you don't get the whole picture.
I believe a guilty man went free tonight. Regardless, the system has spoken. The important thing is for George Z to keep his nose clean and redeem himself.
I do not look forward to the unintended consequences of the "George Zimmerman" defense in future trials.
I do not look forward to the unintended consequences of the "George Zimmerman" defense in future trials.
There was a confrontation. Now what evidence do you have that TM started it, other than the testimony of the shooter and your speculation?Originally posted by original hambone:
So, what is your theory on how Zimmerman got the broken nose and the cuts on the back of his head?Originally posted by MR_
There is also no proof that Martin is the one who confronted Zimmerman either. Only his word on that. When one party is dead you don't get the whole picture.
Originally posted by WooPig71657:
MR_
I have no clue what testimonies you watched if any at all but the medical examiner who reviewed video and photographs of?George Zimmerman's?injuries suffered during his fatal confrontation with Trayvon Martin called the neighborhood watch captain's wounds "insignificant" and "non-life threatening."
But that's my point. You can't convict someone when you have no direct evidence, and unfortunately the death of Martin keeps his testimony about what happened out of the trial.
I have no idea what Zimmerman's motives were that night, but IMO, there just wasn't any evidence presented during the trial that would have allowed me to vote guilty of second degree murder or manslaughter.
The prosecution must prove guilt and that simply did not happen.
I have no idea what Zimmerman's motives were that night, but IMO, there just wasn't any evidence presented during the trial that would have allowed me to vote guilty of second degree murder or manslaughter.
The prosecution must prove guilt and that simply did not happen.
From the 911 call his intentions seemed clear. He was chasing one of "those guys" who "always gets away". We will see if Zimmerman gets away from those child molestation accusations but that is an entirely different can of worms.
This is a very reasonable debate, absent from most of the George Z defenders who focused on TM somehow being the aggressor rather than a lack of evidence.
I also have concealed carry.....I wasn't told to "shoot to kill". I was told that IF I shoot above the waist that legally I am said to be shooting with intent to kill. Never was I told shoot to kill.
The way the law was written, Zimmerman did not fit either of the crimes that he was charged for. He will pay when they sue him in civil court for wrongful death. And to the poster who compared this case to Casey Anthony, in both of these cases the state of Florida was so sure of conviction that they over charged. In Anthony's case if the state would have charged her with manslaughter, involuntary manslaughter or some type of felony child abuse, she would have been convicted. They could not prove capital murder and so lost the case.
What wounds did Trayvon have that indicated to you that he was involved in a physical altercation... other than the gunshot? NONE!Originally posted by ermackey:
There was a confrontation. Now what evidence do you have that TM started it, other than the testimony of the shooter and your speculation?Originally posted by original hambone:
So, what is your theory on how Zimmerman got the broken nose and the cuts on the back of his head?Originally posted by MR_
There is also no proof that Martin is the one who confronted Zimmerman either. Only his word on that. When one party is dead you don't get the whole picture.
They physical evidence. Zimmerman had a broken nose and lacerations to the back of his head.
Eye witness testimony. Neighbor testified that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman throwing punches.
Case closed.
And that does not bother you that TM had no evidence of a physical altercation, other than a gunshot?Originally posted by original hambone:
What wounds did Trayvon have that indicated to you that he was involved in a physical altercation... other than the gunshot? NONE!Originally posted by ermackey:
There was a confrontation. Now what evidence do you have that TM started it, other than the testimony of the shooter and your speculation?Originally posted by original hambone:
So, what is your theory on how Zimmerman got the broken nose and the cuts on the back of his head?Originally posted by MR_
There is also no proof that Martin is the one who confronted Zimmerman either. Only his word on that. When one party is dead you don't get the whole picture.
They physical evidence. Zimmerman had a broken nose and lacerations to the back of his head.
Eye witness testimony. Neighbor testified that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman throwing punches.
Case closed.
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