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I mean, cool. Anyone can request a ballot. If it's received, the State verifies the information and on a SSN check finds he's dead, the vote is rejected.

What's the issue here? The system works fine.


Sending a ballot in is not the same as having a vote actually counted.
Talk about a ridiculous self own...

All the guy did was put up images of THEIR WEBSITE...if there's actually misinformation, wouldn't it be from the state?
 




I mean, cool. Anyone can request a ballot. If it's received, the State verifies the information and on a SSN check finds he's dead, the vote is rejected.

What's the issue here? The system works fine.


Sending a ballot in is not the same as having a vote actually counted. You guys act like a vote is just looking at a paper, submitting it, and that's it. They verify SSN, they verify signatures, etc.
It is insane to trust the gov’t but you do it all the time. That is where we take different roads
 
Talk about a ridiculous self own...

All the guy did was put up images of THEIR WEBSITE...if there's actually misinformation, wouldn't it be from the state?

I agree that the State's response didn't actually address the issue. The guy died back in 1984. My point(and theirs) still stands though. If by chance that ballot actually was mailed in, it would still be rejected when the info was validated.
 
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I agree that the State's response didn't actually address the issue. The guy died back in 1984. My point(and theirs) still stands though. If by chance that ballot actually was mailed in, it would still be rejected when the info was validated.
How do they catch that, though? That would be my question. Wouldn't that be the first stop? "Hey, before we send that ballot, do you think that guy is dead? Nah, let's wait tell after soemone delivers it back completely filled out for us to check."
 
How do they catch that, though? That would be my question. Wouldn't that be the first stop? "Hey, before we send that ballot, do you think that guy is dead? Nah, let's wait tell after soemone delivers it back completely filled out for us to check."
And they’re counting ballots like hot cakes. No way they’re validating each one.
That was what I was getting at earlier. This is going to go to court and under investigation, which will be drug out and ugly. Even uglier when they find a bunch illegitimate ballots.
 
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I agree that the State's response didn't actually address the issue. The guy died back in 1984. My point(and theirs) still stands though. If by chance that ballot actually was mailed in, it would still be rejected when the info was validated.

How do we know it was rejected? There's no proof? There is proof however that the vote was received.
 
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And they’re counting ballots like hot cakes. No way they’re validating each one.
That was what I was getting at earlier. This is going to go to court and under investigation, which will be drug out and ugly. Even uglier when they find a bunch illegitimate ballots.
Exactly...I just think it's funny to say, "Don't worry, we obviously catch these things." When there's proof on your own website that it's gone through multiple processes unchecked and fraudulently completed.

At the end of the day, counted, not counted, I don't know, it's obvious someone illegally filled it out.
 
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How do they catch that, though? That would be my question. Wouldn't that be the first stop? "Hey, before we send that ballot, do you think that guy is dead? Nah, let's wait tell after soemone delivers it back completely filled out for us to check."

So I went through and typed in the info, got to the same screen that the original tweet did. The only thing I can think of is that that William fella was "

You are on the permanent absentee voter list. You will be sent an application for every election. "


So sounds like he's sent a ballot every election. Anyone can intercept that(family member, friend, neighbor, who knows), fill it out and mail it in. Luckily we have systems in place that would spot that once it got entered into the voting machine and it would be rejected.


Sounds like states like Michigan need to update their databases of the deceased and remove them from auto-absentee ballots.
 
So I went through and typed in the info, got to the same screen that the original tweet did. The only thing I can think of is that that William fella was "

You are on the permanent absentee voter list. You will be sent an application for every election. "


So sounds like he's sent a ballot every election. Anyone can intercept that(family member, friend, neighbor, who knows), fill it out and mail it in. Luckily we have systems in place that would spot that once it got entered into the voting machine and it would be rejected.


Sounds like states like Michigan need to update their databases of the deceased and remove them from auto-absentee ballots.
Dude....did you not look...there's literally an image saying his ballot was recieved....
 
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Hey you didn't tell me why you hate the Graham cracker...i'm honestly interested and you can say he's a nazi if you want and I won't be triggered.

I guess the Supreme Court nominee shit just really sticks in my craw when you boil it down.
 
How do we know it was rejected? There's no proof? There is proof however that the vote was received.

Your guess is as good as mine. Either you believe in our democracy and the laws and processes we have, or you don't. I tend to trust the systems work until proven otherwise.


If it comes out that votes were counted illegally, then I'll change my mind.
 
So I went through and typed in the info, got to the same screen that the original tweet did. The only thing I can think of is that that William fella was "

You are on the permanent absentee voter list. You will be sent an application for every election. "


So sounds like he's sent a ballot every election. Anyone can intercept that(family member, friend, neighbor, who knows), fill it out and mail it in. Luckily we have systems in place that would spot that once it got entered into the voting machine and it would be rejected.


Sounds like states like Michigan need to update their databases of the deceased and remove them from auto-absentee ballots.

The application for ballot was received on 11/2/2020

The Ballot was sent 11/2/2020

The Ballot was received 11/2/2020

Straight from Michigan website.
 
So I went through and typed in the info, got to the same screen that the original tweet did. The only thing I can think of is that that William fella was "

You are on the permanent absentee voter list. You will be sent an application for every election. "


So sounds like he's sent a ballot every election. Anyone can intercept that(family member, friend, neighbor, who knows), fill it out and mail it in. Luckily we have systems in place that would spot that once it got entered into the voting machine and it would be rejected.


Sounds like states like Michigan need to update their databases of the deceased and remove them from auto-absentee ballots.
So you still don’t believe there is voter fraud?
 
The application for ballot was received on 11/2/2020

The Ballot was sent 11/2/2020

The Ballot was received 11/2/2020

Straight from Michigan website.

Again, like I just asked JDR, no one is disputing a ballot was received. What does that have to do with it actually being a counted vote?
 
I never said it wasn't received? Not sure what you're getting at here.
The only thing I can think of is that that William fella was "You are on the permanent absentee voter list. You will be sent an application for every election. "

It shows his application was received on 9/11/2020....it wasn't just randomly sent to him.
 
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I'll believe it when after the election there are cases of fraud confirmed and people arrested. Until then it's just people posting grainy videos on Twitter.

The person who filled out the ballot and sent it in committed fraud... the person who counted the ballot is the one who could claim in was a "clerical error" and how many millions of times have we heard that phrase.
 
The only thing I can think of is that that William fella was "You are on the permanent absentee voter list. You will be sent an application for every election. "

It shows his application was received on 9/11/2020....it wasn't just randomly sent to him.

Okay, then why does it have

"
Election date
11/3/2020

Application received
9/11/2020

Ballot sent
9/19/2020

Ballot received
10/2/2020

You are on the permanent absentee voter list. You will be sent an application for every election.

"

Could be the system automatically mails out ballots, and it lists application received as the date that process started, I can't answer that question. Why would you need to submit an application if you're automatically sent a ballot?


Could easily be fixed if the state would clean up their database and autoreject ballots from dead SSN's(like you mentioned earlier). That's a system issue, not evidence of fraud.

The system is supposed to catch those invalid ballots and reject them. As far as we know, the system works. It would be fraud if the system wasn't working.

None of us know the answer to that, but the presumption is that the system works otherwise there would be evidence to prove otherwise.
 
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The person who filled out the ballot and sent it in committed fraud... the person who counted the ballot is the one who could claim in was a "clerical error" and how many millions of times have we heard that phrase.

That's true. If someone did that, that's a felony and they should be arrested. Doesn't mean that vote is being counted though, that's the the point.
 
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I guess Trump said he's going to the Supreme Court. Santorum just said "No Republican is going to stand behind that statement"
 
That's true. If someone did that, that's a felony and they should be arrested. Doesn't mean that vote is being counted though, that's the the point.
That’s crazy talk. Record turnout in the majority of states. Of course there’s fraud. Enough to flip any states? Extremely doubtful. I wish I could be that pro government but that’s pro government to the point of delusion.
 
That’s crazy talk. Record turnout in the majority of states. Of course there’s fraud. Enough to flip any states? Extremely doubtful. I wish I could be that pro government but that’s pro government to the point of delusion.

To be fair, it was suggested awhile back voter turnout would be high.
 
That’s crazy talk. Record turnout in the majority of states. Of course there’s fraud. Enough to flip any states? Extremely doubtful. I wish I could be that pro government but that’s pro government to the point of delusion.

Not trying to be rude here, but you're starting to sound like the President here. Can't just throw out "FRAUD!" just because don't like the outcome.
 
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