Missing out on Tyrie Cleveland
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These guys were shooting at someone in a dorm and broke three windows in the process..
Did you do it when you were 18 into a dormitory at 2 in the morning?? Shooting at someone in the middle of the night is a pretty messed up thing to do and I am amazed at how many people are calling it a "mistake".
Did you do it when you were 18 into a dormitory at 2 in the morning?? Shooting at someone in the middle of the night is a pretty messed up thing to do and I am amazed at how many people are calling it a "mistake".
You sound like you may be Akiel's uncle. Buck21 is that you? Still trying to pick a winning horse? Keep trying.
Nothing grim bottom about it except maybe what I said runs contrary to your personal agenda. Had I(or you) lost a loved one in one of those gun free zones where folks were helplessly slaughtered b/c they were trapped by laws that mass murderers tend to ignore, I would have been thrilled had a law abiding citizen or two been armed and able to stop it and thus saved some innocent lives. Too bad that offends you.
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You are the one who got offended and took exception to someone's post. I have nothing to add, just a hot button topic. Luckily nobody took your bate.
Yeah let's just go back to the days of the wild west and have shootouts between good guys and bad guys in the middle of the street.
You were the one who said we caught a blessing.
No, wait, that was your brother. Sorry
What? Your post makes no sense. You realize your down playing of a BB gun in this case is like saying a kid shouldn't get in trouble for "just drinking alcohol" when he gets a DWI.
The kid would not have gotten charged with a 3rd degree felony for "just shooting a BB gun." He shot it on campus while others were around and shattered windows in the process.
There's a time and place to do both legally. Cleveland and Wells fumbled on both accounts.
C'mon, it should be common sense.
Yeah. I've been 18 on a college campus for the first time. It wasn't always pretty. Did worse than shoot out a window with a BB gun.
According to the article I read the two felony's were criminal mischief and shooting a missile inside a occupied dwelling. WTF!
It sounds like the DA is reaching on these charges. This will get plead out to a misdemeanor or dismissed.
BB guns are not considered firearms in Florida.
http://www.chron.com/sports/highsch...ad-Tyrie-Cleveland-arrested-after-8384587.php
It sounds like the DA is reaching on these charges. This will get plead out to a misdemeanor or dismissed.
BB guns are not considered firearms in Florida.
http://www.chron.com/sports/highsch...ad-Tyrie-Cleveland-arrested-after-8384587.php
Lol, do you always call people mad when you realize you're wrong and have no further support for your argument?
No, let's sit around and pretend that mass murders will see the "no guns allowed" signs and walk away. That theory has worked sooooo well up until now. Reality be damned, we have a "we're above that" social statement to make. If you ever happen to be in one of those hell on earth wrong place at the right time scenarios, I hope you have the good fortune of having one of those less enlightened good guys there to save you even if you find them to be obsolete relics of the past. We won't quit needing good guys until we no longer have bad guys. Doesn't look like that is going to happen anytime soon.
Not at all. I just don't understand why you would take such issue with a kid from another team shooting a BB gun at a window. I find it random. I have an issue with the kid from bama sitting in a car with a real gun and weed...but this seems like run of the mill high school/college dumbassery to me. Just kids being kids.
You mean like this example?
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...to-rob-Waffle-House-with-an-AK-47-8365342.php
Like I said earlier, I grew up in Arkansas and a BB gun was basically a dangerous toy. With that said, you don't take a BB gun into a dorm where students could be nearby.
It's like joking about a bomb threat on campus. You don't do that, and it will always be taken very seriously and should be.
If he wanted to shoot a BB gun, he should have gone down to a pond or river in the middle of nowhere.
Completely agree. Don't think his career should be jeapordized because of that. Nothing 500 bleachers can't fix.
They were shooting at someone on the other side of that window. http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/florida-football/two-florida-wrs-arrested/
I don't think I ever said he shouldn't be allowed to play football again. I said he should be redshirted. Huge difference.
Just seems kind of counter intuitive to me to say hey you know what would solve America's problem with gun violence? Everyone having guns! And what happens when some good Samaritan trying to stop a crime by taking matters into their own hands happens to be a crappy shot and shoots a bystander? Is that involuntary manslaughter?
Defending yourself(or somebody else) from gun violence is not gun violence, it is surviving gun violence. No laws or regulations are going to keep those bent on killing from doing just that. People planning on mass killing have no reason to yield to gun laws.
I know a lot of people with concealed carry permits(as I have been for over a decade) and I don't know any of them who have ever shot at or even pulled a gun on anybody. Unless you know them and they tell you, you will never even know they carry. They are regular people who have passed an FBI background check and tend to be pretty much model citizens. If they weren't they wouldn't be allowed to have a permit. Oh, and to get a permit, you must pass a written test and demonstrate the skill to safely handle and shoot your weapon.
We live in a world where it has become almost normal for rampage killings to happen. As a teen in the 70's it wasn't uncommon for guys to deer hunt before school during deer season and come straight to school with a high powered rifle in their truck. It never occurred to anybody that doing that was a threat b/c it wasn't. Now? They will send a 7yo home for biting his sandwich into the shape of a gun. When were we safer? When were our children safer? Sane people who own guns have never been anybody's problem. Insane people don't seem to care if you don't want them armed. If there is a chance an insane guy might show up with a gun, why in the world wouldn't you hope a sane guy happens to have one too?
This this this.
Also it's hilarious some guys ITT playing the felony card are the same ones who couldn't wait for one of our bball players who were were charged with forgery (class b felony) to get back on the team.
Playing the felony card? It's not playing the card, it is the card.
Why is it so hard to understand you can't bring something on campus that resembles a firearm, cause destruction and shoot it near others?
It's one thing if guys were giving an opinion on whether the guy should be charged with a felony, but that's not the case here. These guys were charged with felonies.
Bad judgement I shot at cans and sticks home made targets with a BB gun but I knew if I shot a window i bought it.
I thought we only recruit players that don't get arrested?
Or as I said earlier, it happens. Nobodys perfect.
Or as I said earlier, it happens. Nobodys perfect.
Where did I say or imply I was offended or take exception? I just had a little different take than the guy I replied to.. You OTOH, got all pissy and whiney trying to put me in what you see as my place. Of course, you are the master of whining about what you can't debate on substance. The master.
BTW, didn't your college teach you how to spell bait? Enlightened my ass.
Yes, it's messed up. I'm not saying that they shouldn't have some kind of punishment. Just saying that people trying to say we got lucky for not taking this kid as if he's some kind of bad kid is just wrong and incorrect. Just as you think I'm being too light about the whole thing, I think you are taking it too harshly. The right reaction is somewhere in between.
Look, you're the one who took the conversation there. That's all I'm saying. Nobody had brought up gun control until you did...that's you taking exception and making a thread political. Period. It doesn't matter. Nobody is taking your bayt on it except one guy and he's being very reasonable. Move on.
You are such a fraud.
It actually went like this.
A guy mentioned that there shouldn't be guns of any kind on college campuses. In a different world I would agree with that statement. In the world we live in, I do not. Because of that, I responded to what he said. That is my right.
You didn't like that I said what I said b/c it goes against your ideology. Unfortunately for you, the evidence falls overwhelmingly in my direction and you know it.
So, you take your little cheap shot about the grim bottom so as to discredit what I said as best you could with nothing but empty idealism to back you up.
I responded and then you accused me of trying to bait/bate/bayt you(nice try at trying to look like you can't spell a simple word on purpose) . Bait you into what is something I'm still not sure about. More likely, you just really want to stifle something you don't like that you can't defend.
It is well known that mass killers target gun free zones b/c they know they will encounter no resistance and the people there will be helpless to stop them. There is a reason those people don't go to hunting camps, NRA meetings, etc. to do their dirty work. They go to schools, to places like the gay bar in Florida, gun free zones like in California, etc., where they know there is nobody that can shoot back.
Your reasonable friend threw out the terms old west and gun violence and I politely countered with the reality that sane people with guns have never, ever been the problem and that homicidally insane people don't care about rules and actually prey upon gun free zones. I also spelled out what and who typical concealed carry folks are and the fact that you and most others never even know who they are if they don't tell you.
Removing guns from law abiding citizens in places and then posting it on doors, in parking lots, and on walls has proven over and over again to be deadly if people with bad intentions take notice. Clearly, that isn't nearly as important to you as keeping people like me from talking about it.
And you got it sent to the grim bottom. Congratulations. And I still haven't made a single comment for or against gun control.
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