I am curious what the boards opinions are for Dry counties becoming Wet. Faulkner County recently started gathering signatures to get the Wet/Dry issue on the ballot and I thought it would be interesting to get the boards take.
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I agree with you, titan. If people want to drink, they will find a way to do so. I've missed you! I'm glad you're back.Originally posted by titanhawg:
I don't drink...but people are going to find alcohol no matter what. All it really does is keep nice restaurants out of many areas that don't allow alcohol sales...and makes people drive to get their fix...then drive back home while drinking, like we did in college at UAM (a dry township at the time).
Originally posted by pokerpig:
Adults that don't want to drink don't have to just because they live in a wet county, but they shouldn't have the right to tell other adults that they can't. Same goes for drugs, X rated movies, or whatever your "pursuit of happiness is". No one should have the right to tell you what you can, and cannot, do to you, Including the government.
Just hasn't been much to talk about lately!Originally posted by Pigasus22:
I agree with you, titan. If people want to drink, they will find a way to do so. I've missed you! I'm glad you're back.Originally posted by titanhawg:
I don't drink...but people are going to find alcohol no matter what. All it really does is keep nice restaurants out of many areas that don't allow alcohol sales...and makes people drive to get their fix...then drive back home while drinking, like we did in college at UAM (a dry township at the time).
I thought you were a female Titan?Originally posted by titanhawg:
Just hasn't been much to talk about lately!Originally posted by Pigasus22:
I agree with you, titan. If people want to drink, they will find a way to do so. I've missed you! I'm glad you're back.Originally posted by titanhawg:
I don't drink...but people are going to find alcohol no matter what. All it really does is keep nice restaurants out of many areas that don't allow alcohol sales...and makes people drive to get their fix...then drive back home while drinking, like we did in college at UAM (a dry township at the time).
Originally posted by RazorbackDundee:
I thought you were a female Titan?Originally posted by titanhawg:
Just hasn't been much to talk about lately!Originally posted by Pigasus22:
I agree with you, titan. If people want to drink, they will find a way to do so. I've missed you! I'm glad you're back.Originally posted by titanhawg:
I don't drink...but people are going to find alcohol no matter what. All it really does is keep nice restaurants out of many areas that don't allow alcohol sales...and makes people drive to get their fix...then drive back home while drinking, like we did in college at UAM (a dry township at the time).
Legalize medical marijuanaOriginally posted by pokerpig:
Adults that don't want to drink don't have to just because they live in a wet county, but they shouldn't have the right to tell other adults that they can't. Same goes for drugs, X rated movies, or whatever your "pursuit of happiness is". No one should have the right to tell you what you can, and cannot, do to you, Including the government.
Utrip, I grew up in Conway as well and I have heard this argument and reasoning, as to why Faulkner County needs to stay dry, all of my life. A few years ago, when liquor was introduced into restaurants, I heard this same reasoning. And, today, despite it being in restaurants now for aprox 10 years, Conway is the fastest growing community in the state. It no more caused crime or increased alcohol related driving incidents than it did before it was allowed. If the those numbers have increased, it could just as easily, and probably more logically, be because of population growth instead of the same population base drinking and driving drunk just because they serve it in a restaurant now. I have never understood the analogy that Conway would turn into Detroit if alcohol was introduced here, although, that's been the scare tactic of the "dry" crowd. The reality is, you're making the argument for them and frankly, it offends me to think that you are telling me that I can not or will not be responsible with it if it becomes available.Originally posted by UTRIP UMP:
I live in Faulkner county, and will vote to keep the county dry, in a manner of speaking. There are over 30 restaurants in Faulkner county that currenty serve alcohol, so no county citizen is denied the opportunity to consume alcohol here.
The vote to make the county wet or dry will be determined by the residents of the county, as it should be. A simple
majority of votes make that determination. That is, and always will be, a fair and democratic way to provide resolutions
to issues concerning US citizens.
I don't care if it seems archaic or unfair. I do see it as the best choice for the citizenry of Faulkner county based
on the facts of both sides of the issue. No one is being denied due process or their Constitutional rights. No one
is being told they cannot consume alcohol. The citizens wish to retain the rights to determine if alcohol can be
sold in forms within the county limits.
We have good communities in Faulkner county, and yes, there is a strong religious presence here, and I don't find
it to be detrimental at all. Conway is the fastest growing community in the state, this issue, increasing crime, and
highway construction and congestion are clear evidence of that.
I feel blessed to call Faulkner county my home. I live halfway between Conway and Vilonia and it is where we raised
our children. There will continue to be explosive growth in this area for the next 15-20 years. I don't think we need
to be a 'wet' county to facilitate or accentuate that growth. Nor has White, Lonoke, and Saline counties.
I say, let the citizens decide the direction they want to go, and grow.
JMHO.
You obviously misread or purposely chose to incorrectly interpret what I stated. One, I never stated or insinuated thatOriginally posted by pigboy7:
Utrip, I grew up in Conway as well and I have heard this argument and reasoning, as to why Faulkner County needs to stay dry, all of my life. A few years ago, when liquor was introduced into restaurants, I heard this same reasoning. And, today, despite it being in restaurants now for aprox 10 years, Conway is the fastest growing community in the state. It no more caused crime or increased alcohol related driving incidents than it did before it was allowed. If the those numbers have increased, it could just as easily, and probably more logically, be because of population growth instead of the same population base drinking and driving drunk just because they serve it in a restaurant now. I have never understood the analogy that Conway would turn into Detroit if alcohol was introduced here, although, that's been the scare tactic of the "dry" crowd. The reality is, you're making the argument for them and frankly, it offends me to think that you are telling me that I can not or will not be responsible with it if it becomes available.Originally posted by UTRIP UMP:
I live in Faulkner county, and will vote to keep the county dry, in a manner of speaking. There are over 30 restaurants in Faulkner county that currenty serve alcohol, so no county citizen is denied the opportunity to consume alcohol here.
The vote to make the county wet or dry will be determined by the residents of the county, as it should be. A simple
majority of votes make that determination. That is, and always will be, a fair and democratic way to provide resolutions
to issues concerning US citizens.
I don't care if it seems archaic or unfair. I do see it as the best choice for the citizenry of Faulkner county based
on the facts of both sides of the issue. No one is being denied due process or their Constitutional rights. No one
is being told they cannot consume alcohol. The citizens wish to retain the rights to determine if alcohol can be
sold in forms within the county limits.
We have good communities in Faulkner county, and yes, there is a strong religious presence here, and I don't find
it to be detrimental at all. Conway is the fastest growing community in the state, this issue, increasing crime, and
highway construction and congestion are clear evidence of that.
I feel blessed to call Faulkner county my home. I live halfway between Conway and Vilonia and it is where we raised
our children. There will continue to be explosive growth in this area for the next 15-20 years. I don't think we need
to be a 'wet' county to facilitate or accentuate that growth. Nor has White, Lonoke, and Saline counties.
I say, let the citizens decide the direction they want to go, and grow.
JMHO.
I thought I outlined my opinion clearly. If the majority of the eligible voters who cast ballots do so in Faulkner county toOriginally posted by pokerpig:
Utrip, first of all we don't live in a Democracy, we live in a Republic. I have no idea where you get that majority rules, but let me bring to your attention the fact that 75% of voters in Arkansas voted against homosexual marriage, that got overturned and is being overturned in state after state. Majority clearly does NOT rule. So you believe that you have the right to prevent me from my pursuit of happiness, whatever that may be, even if it doesn't effect you in any way, simply because your gang is bigger than mine?
No, that is not what you originally stated, so it wasn't clear. Also, you choose to decide whether or not what youOriginally posted by pokerpig:
I believe I clearly stated that as long as it doesn't effect you, or anyone else but me,