So the murder down here in Southwest Arkansas...
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The 24 hour news cycle and the internet are responsible for much of the prevailing attitude. Crimes are analyzed and reanalyzed to death.
No, he helped drag the body outside, hid his crime for a few days and, according to Dakota, shot the guy once too.
I'm 31 and agree with @tcchog that people show less respect these days, but agree with @Mr.Razorback that generally times are no better or worse now than they used to be. My dad is 61 and when we've talked about it before he's mentioned having to do nuclear drills where they all had to hide under their desks in elementary school. So undoubtedly in ways we are better off.
Times are no worse now?? Are you serious?
25 years ago, my mom could leave her front door unlocked... ALL THE TIME, and never have to even question whether or not someone was gonna go in and rob us. Can't dare do that now.
Kids are worse, adults are worse, crime has damn near tripled. people in general are just shittier, scarier, snobbier, the list goes on.
Anyone who says the world is just the same as it ever was, is walking around with their eyes closed.
Theft, rape, murder, domestic violence, child neglect, drug related crimes, all dramatically higher than they used to be... there's really no argument.
25 years ago, my mom could leave her front door unlocked... ALL THE TIME, and never have to even question whether or not someone was gonna go in and rob us. Can't dare do that now.
Kids are worse, adults are worse, crime has damn near tripled. people in general are just shittier, scarier, snobbier, the list goes on.
Anyone who says the world is just the same as it ever was, is walking around with their eyes closed.
Theft, rape, murder, domestic violence, child neglect, drug related crimes, all dramatically higher than they used to be... there's really no argument.
Lol, all that is BS. Link to crime tripling? Rapes and all that have always happened you just never heard about it because it was only in newspapers, the internet spreads it wildly now. Please don't act so clueless.
http://www.movoto.com/blog/opinions/crime-maps-over-time/ this is just the last decade. Crime rose violently after 1963 and peaked in the 80's & 90's. Now it's safer than it was pre 1963.
You're just getting caught up in the 24 hour news cycle. It's not worse, and statistically it's better.
http://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/ this should prove you wrong too.
I'm definitely on team @Mr.Razorback here with media just spreading more stories not that their actually are more stories out there to spread.
I think the argument to be made as to why previous generations may have been better is with the question why is today's world safer? I think the world today is safer because u are more likely to get caught if you do something. It's not really right or wrong with a lot of people it's just a fear of the punishment.
Previous generations had to rely on their integrity to do the right thing because people weren't looking. Go far enough back and their was basically 0 accountability.
However we see movies today like the purge and think that might be possible if we didn't have the law enforcement we have now.
I think the argument to be made as to why previous generations may have been better is with the question why is today's world safer? I think the world today is safer because u are more likely to get caught if you do something. It's not really right or wrong with a lot of people it's just a fear of the punishment.
Previous generations had to rely on their integrity to do the right thing because people weren't looking. Go far enough back and their was basically 0 accountability.
However we see movies today like the purge and think that might be possible if we didn't have the law enforcement we have now.
With technology the way it is now and DNA and all that it's becoming very very hard to commit a major crime now a days. I'm not saying that it can't happen but it's a lot harder.
It isn't just the crime. It's a conglomerate of things that make the world worse today. People are fatter, lazier, entitled when they haven't done a damn thing to earn it or deserve it. Everybody is "offended" by something that is completely irrelevant or ridiculous. I don't give a damn about your link or your statistics. Like I said before, anyone who doesn't think that these times are worse, is a f'n idiot that has pulled the wool over their own eyes.
Less integrity, less morals, less backbone, less drive.
More EBT cards, more government assistance, more no good pieces of ish walking the streets looking for someone to rob, cause it's easier than going out and working for it...And I sure as hell, wasn't just referring to the early 90's as better times, but nice try...
Less integrity, less morals, less backbone, less drive.
More EBT cards, more government assistance, more no good pieces of ish walking the streets looking for someone to rob, cause it's easier than going out and working for it...And I sure as hell, wasn't just referring to the early 90's as better times, but nice try...
Your quote "25 years ago, my mom could leave her front door unlocked... ALL THE TIME, and never have to even question whether or not someone was gonna go in and rob us. Can't dare do that now" says differently. You just can't admit when you're wrong huh?
Sad deal for sure but these kids were planning to go rob someone at gunpoint. It was well beyond wrong place/wrong time. Much like it wasn't one "bad decision", either.
Horrible deal and I don't necessarily fault the parents as any kid can go off the rails. Just a disgusting deal all the way around.
As for crime these days, it absolutely seems far worse but it's just like others have said, more reported. I know growing up (Northwest Arkansas in the 80s/90s) we didn't just leave our doors unlocked. This isn't Mayberry. I mean, there were horrific serial killers terrorizing certain areas all throughout the 1900s and people across the country weren't even all that aware of what was going on. Part of that was due to the lack of communication compared to what we've got today.
No question kids and adults are raised differently today than 20-30 years ago but to suggest crime has tripled is nothing but fabricated nonsense.
Got to agree with @Mr.Razorback on this one (and I think we would both agree that is rare). Anyone who actually believes things are worse today than previous decades based solely on anecdotal evidence (i.e. My mom can't leave her door unlocked anymore) is being played.
Politicians are the absolute worst at doing this. They attempt, and often succeed, at scaring the public, playing on their fears and needling there desire of the "good ole days" to pander for votes. The convince the electorate that their lives are so miserable now, and were so great back in the day. Why do they do this? To persuade them that the "otherside" is to blame, or that immigrants are to blame or that China is to blame or that Islam is to blame and it goes on and on and on. T
hey do this to avoid actually providing solutions to real problems, to avoid providing details to their plans and because it is easy and it works. When the reality is that life ain't too bad in the grand scheme of things. Sure we have some big problems in this country, some that are embarrassing (child poverty, homelessness are a few) but overall life has improved over time and it will continue to improve.
Politicians are the absolute worst at doing this. They attempt, and often succeed, at scaring the public, playing on their fears and needling there desire of the "good ole days" to pander for votes. The convince the electorate that their lives are so miserable now, and were so great back in the day. Why do they do this? To persuade them that the "otherside" is to blame, or that immigrants are to blame or that China is to blame or that Islam is to blame and it goes on and on and on. T
hey do this to avoid actually providing solutions to real problems, to avoid providing details to their plans and because it is easy and it works. When the reality is that life ain't too bad in the grand scheme of things. Sure we have some big problems in this country, some that are embarrassing (child poverty, homelessness are a few) but overall life has improved over time and it will continue to improve.
So maybe statistically crime may be less etc and just seems worse because of the over saturated media coverage... however, there IS a much different attitude among the newest generation. Less or no respect shown for their parents or anyone else for that matter. More rude people that just don't care if they use horrible language in public. No more manners like if someone bumps into you @ Wal Mart they look at you like you are a piece of trash with no "excuse me" or "I'm sorry". People have become so accustomed to having everything "right now" in this microwave world that if they don't get what they want when they want it they get so angry they throw temper tantrums. One things leads to another and you have a fight or worse on your hands... People are seemingly SO much more defensive and combative now.
Some of this can be contributed to how the children are being raised these days... and some can be put on the media... ( my opinion,draw your own conclusions)
There is something to be said for "we used to be able to not have to lock our doors at night" because that IS true... but that may just as well be that the population is greater now than it used to be. When you start spreading out so does crime, just the way it is...
So while "the world of crime" may be the same as it was 2 to 5 decades ago per cap pita, the world of "attitude and respect" has gone in the crapper...
Some of this can be contributed to how the children are being raised these days... and some can be put on the media... ( my opinion,draw your own conclusions)
There is something to be said for "we used to be able to not have to lock our doors at night" because that IS true... but that may just as well be that the population is greater now than it used to be. When you start spreading out so does crime, just the way it is...
So while "the world of crime" may be the same as it was 2 to 5 decades ago per cap pita, the world of "attitude and respect" has gone in the crapper...
So 1996...those are the "good Ole Days"? With respect man, turn off the TV, stop listening to the spooky stories, and go live your life. You are blessed to live in the safest time in human history, go enjoy it.
Bash you? Bash you? Don't you realize you are worse than those two murderers for saying something offensive to people??? Those two are really victims of our society but YOU are a criminal. Yes. You are guilty of hate speech. We have decided what hate speech is and it is anything we don't agree with.
I'm 60 and it seems worse...I guess the perception overrides reality and I agree we are more saturated with the evil that man
does due to expanded exposure to media/social media. I would suggest that depravity and disregard for the sanctity of life
in general is worse, but I guess given the brutality and depravity of the Roman Empire, the period of the Inquisition, etc, even
that is debatable.
I think society in general is numbed by the increased exposure to the rawness of human brutality and
depravity, though social consciousness may be raised in some realms, and likely begats political correctness as a by-product,
you either cringe or rage at the impropriety of it all, or slide in a state of disassociation or apathy.
does due to expanded exposure to media/social media. I would suggest that depravity and disregard for the sanctity of life
in general is worse, but I guess given the brutality and depravity of the Roman Empire, the period of the Inquisition, etc, even
that is debatable.
I think society in general is numbed by the increased exposure to the rawness of human brutality and
depravity, though social consciousness may be raised in some realms, and likely begats political correctness as a by-product,
you either cringe or rage at the impropriety of it all, or slide in a state of disassociation or apathy.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/22/u...ork-but-perception-is-hard-to-shake.html?_r=0
"The most egregious misunderstanding of all is that the public doesn’t seem to know that crime has dropped significantly in the long term. Nationally, we have 8,000 fewer murders per year than we did a little over 20 years ago; 8,000 killings is equivalent to having a San Bernardino terrorism massacre every day for a year combined with Sept. 11 fatalities."
"The most egregious misunderstanding of all is that the public doesn’t seem to know that crime has dropped significantly in the long term. Nationally, we have 8,000 fewer murders per year than we did a little over 20 years ago; 8,000 killings is equivalent to having a San Bernardino terrorism massacre every day for a year combined with Sept. 11 fatalities."
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