Just like the Jim Jones bunch decades ago, it is a sick cult masquerading as a Christian group. The left loves it b/c it allows them to paint the real Christians with the same brush to those who don't know the difference. I know of nobody in the Christain world that isn't at least as disgusted by this sick bunch as anybody else. Moreso actually b/c they tarnish what we stand for and feed the already false notions amongst the non-believers as to who and what we are. For those scumbags to claim to be one of us is a downright lie.
As someone from the left, I can tell you that I find it sickening and I don't like it one bit. I find it disgusting, honestly. Not really religious either, but I don't think for one second that that is what Christians are about just as I don't feel that all Muslims are terrorists(which was inferred on this board yesterday, not saying it was you)
In the hopes of not going to far with this response, the WB bunch is a tiny, tiny, tiny faction of radical nutjobs who have no clue of what their claimed religion is about. Muslim doctrine calls for jihad(perpetual holy war which doesn't end until all non-believers are either converted or eliminated) and that is a belief and cause that has literally killed millions around the world and continues to do so everyday. To compare that with a small rogue church that nobody outside of it finds anything but disdain for, is not much of a comparison.
Thanks for the level-headed response. This is how discussions should be. I will concede that the number of Muslims that believe in Jihad far exceeds that of the number of people in the WBC. There are many interpretations of Jihad and not all Muslims prescribe to the extreme interpretations of Jihad(i.e. converting & eliminating). My point was, that there are many Muslims worldwide and within this country that are constantly haunted and disgusted by the actions of "radical nutjobs" that they are often equated with. I don't want to go to far into this response, this is not the forum for it and I am worn out by yesterday's news.
I wish those Muslims would stand up and be heard instead of sitting meekly by as governments are overthrown, people are persecuted, and innocent lives are taken in the name of Allah.
Those aren't just terrorist groups. They control nations over there and they have very powerful influences over their fellow believers worldwide. They are well organized, well armed, well funded, focused on the prize, and have a huge impact on world politics. They, whether some muslims are sickened by it or not, are THE most powerful representation of muslims worldwide and control every muslim stronghold on the planet. Unfortunately, efforts by the politically correct worldwide to paint them as a small minority and poor representation of their faith have given them the time and free pass to be the world players they have become.
I don't see this being reported anywhere credible, in regards to Hezbollah or Hamas or Gaza. Of course, "al Qaeda", which is really just a generic term at this point for any Arab-based terror network, is gonna praise the bombing. Anyway, link?
I don't do links and I heard it on the radio anyway. But in a common sense kind of way, why would this time be any different than the rest? Do you remember the celebrations and elation on the streets in the Middle East once 911 became world headlines? Those celebrations made TV news worldwide. Have you seen anything since then that leads you to believe there has been a huge about face in the muslim world in the last 12 years? Me neither.
And that is where soul searching needs to take place. When the core of your faith is dominated by condoning murder, lies, and hatred, maybe it's time to question what you are believing in. Again, it wasn't the Crusades that defined Christianity, it was how they reacted to it going forward.
There's quite a difference between not making things a focal point and the reporting not existing at all. But ho hum...
To avoid all debate here and just address the missionary part. Civil society is grounded in religion in many Islamic countries, in Egypt for example, Islamic groups helped more people than the government in the aftermath of the earthquake of 1992. Most Islamic(not Islamist-there's a difference) groups stick within their own country and provide domestic services rather than going abroad. When you're in an impoverished country as it is, it is hard to justify doing missionary work somewhere else.
Different time. We lacked the ability to travel throughout the world, to obtain the truth from a myraid of sources, and to communicate with anybody not standing right in front of us during the Crusades. We lacked the ability for a handful of detemined folks to kill hundreds or 1000's of unsuspecting people in a moment's time, the ability to orchestrate and carry out violent acts half way around the world, and the ability to communicate with like-minded individuals throughout the world from our own home.
Gotta love someone jumping in and calling 2 people stupid and acting self righteous; makes it fun
As soon as I see/hear of a Christian terrorist group taking credit for bombings and hijackings of innocent people abroad to make a point, I will jump on them too. Especailly if folks in our country take to the streets to celebrate the carnage. Likewise, when I start to see muslim missionaries doing good things in sacrificial ways for those who don't share their own views, I will start to defend them.
No man, you due(do) the math if you have any, especially the numbers that pertain to folks killed due to both religions say, in the last 50 years or so. That timeline would seem far more pertinent to the topic at hand. I mean, I haven't noticed any nazi death camps springing up lately, have you? Look forward to your response.
