That's cause it is absurd.
We have been full on open in GA for over a month and only have 65K cumulative cases and over 3x the population of AR...our death rate is also dropping like a rock...
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That's cause it is absurd.
We have been full on open in GA for over a month and only have 65K cumulative cases and over 3x the population of AR...our death rate is also dropping like a rock...
Not on death rate. If it is...I’m blowing my 401k on some Hangover Style Vegas trip.
who’s wit me
I'm going to respond to this one as friendly as I know how.
Here's a link for the data from the CDC. Link
From February 1st to June 13th, 8104 men between the ages of 15-24 have died regadless of cause...in the US.
In that same time frame, 80 have died from Corona...in the US.
So, if a football player were to tragically pass away, there is less than a 1% chance it would be due to Covid.
These are peak physical condition athletes who are constantly being monitored by health officials with little to no comorbidities associated with the virus.
Let's just play some hut hut.
It's already killed over 115,000 people and there is no end in sight. How can you be so cavalier about these people's lives? And what about their families and friends who no longer have them? Is there any amount of deaths that is too much for you? 300,000? 400,000? If you can reduce deaths without destroying the economy, why wouldn't you? Require people to wear face masks, limit indoor gatherings, etc...
That's true but you'd also need to quarantine them so that they don't spread the virus. I think that's probably the bigger issue, but perhaps it's a problem that could be solved.
Agreed. IMO, it's why whoever decided to only test the asymptomatic is a moron. Yes, the possibility of spreading the virus is very low while asymptomatic; however, unless you know the person has the ability to spread the virus, you'll generally never be able to catch the spread at the time of infection. It would be retroactive containment almost exclusively.
Where did I say either? .. (although even the author of the article is very non-committal to its data). You wanted an update on when a player gets the flu. Its usually updated in weekly press conferences during the season and never becomes an outbreak. We always have one or two who get the flue each year. We've never seen 30 guys get in a single week.
I get that young folks aren't dying from this. Everyone on the planet should know that by now. I was all over this board calling out posters, the media, anyone who acted like this was killing young people...which they did act like early on as a scare tactic.
There are 2 big speed bumps I'm not promoting, but expect to be major factors in whether we play:
1. If we play football, I don't see how almost every player doesn't get this. And if that happens, you will have death from it. It might be just one guy, but that guy will be a martyr for all that is wrong with college football. Presidents, Chancellors, AD's need to be prepared to answer the "was it worth it?" question. Was this player's life worth the $$?
2. Unless we are the West Canaan Coyotes coached by Lance Harbour, every single program has multiple coaches, staff, administration that have much higher risk rates.
14 days is the average recovery time for mild cases. Honestly, that's reasonable.
Has any school had that many test positive, or are they contact tracing and accounting for individuals with close contact in those numbers? I believe its the latter
Didn’t he say 150k active cases? Either way 150k cumulative is still ridiculous...what I want to know is what are all of these people that are so freaked out going to do in 18 months when we have a vaccine and the stupid virus mutates like the flu every year and it never goes away? Cause it’s going to happen...
Clemson had 23 positive tests, don’t believe that included any presumed positives due to contact
There are approximately 21.9 million 15-24 YO Males in the US today.
There have been 80 deaths in 4 months, so lets assume that number is constant for the full year to provide a true rate...240 deaths.
240/21.9MM = 1.09 deaths/100,000/year
There are 73,700 football players in NCAA.
If EVERY SINGLE PLAYER IN THE NCAA GOT COVID, it would be estimated that 0.8 people would die from the disease...regardless of physical condition...which would undoubtedly astronomically shrink that number as well.
Edit: really shitty numbers on my part...it's not if every person got Covid...just the probability that one would die. I'm dumb.
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Its reasonable due to that fact, but the odds are good the person is well past that point at testing. Maybe they are going 14 days past first symptoms, idk.
Those are all athletes, no? I've heard on the radio several times yesterday that "LSU had 30 athletes with it, when the numbers were closer to a dozen plus close contacts thrown in.
Its just hard to trust any numbers at this point
Edit: all athletes meaning not just football players
Physical condition is key when talking Covid, somehow that gets lost in the rhetoric
Honestly, if you find a positive case I would error on the side of caution and use a third party medical group to withdraw the suspicion of returning someone back too quickly against medical adivce. My assumption is that group would say 14 days.
Then there is the rub. Not all people create antibodies, though
I kind of mispoke anyways, antibody testing is generally post infection. Viral testing would be for the symptomatic.
Could be wrong but I believe they’re using regular tests in football players
I think Clemson has had over 40 football players test positive.
https://www.espn.com/college-footba...ball-players-positive-covid-19-latest-testing
No, you're probably right. The post before yours I attempted to correct myself.
Only severe obesity, defined as a body mass index (BMI) of 40 or above, puts people at higher risk for complications from COVID-19.
Hopefully our lineman aren't fitty pusent fat. However, based upon pictures from last year, I wouldn't pit it past them.
Linkage.
That math is wacko.
IMO, the positive case rate is going to be much higher for college football players than it would be for the general public in that age range, especially when compared to the general public over the past 4 months.
There's a LOT of guys over 40 BMI. And most college football players don't play in the SEC. They aren't the elite linemen we see on the usual.
The math wasn't wacko...the conclusion was stupid. I assumed all person had covid in my rationale...which as I stated...was doomb.
The math is right.
When you say 240/21.9 million, obviously all 21.9 million of those did not have Covid-19. I have no idea what the number is, but for hypothetical lets use 10% of those 21.9 million have contracted it. That means 240/2.19 million or 1.09 deaths per 10,000 that get it.
If you are going to assume that 100% of football players get it (in this example a rate 10 x the general public) you would need to use 1.09 deaths per 10,000 not 1.09 per 100,000.
Your math only works if football players contract CV-19 at the same rate that their age range contracted it over the past 4 months, with no school, no football, and most of the nation quarantined.
That's exactly what I said. If you look in the first comment you made on it, I even called myself on exactly everything you just said. You could have saved yourself a lot of typing.
So what's your conclusion now? If every player got it......how many would die?
I’m gonna need you to “show your work” on this one bruh.
5 died in Houston yesterday and there is a firefighter in ICU there now who is likely not to make it. Only 6 deaths so no big deal right?
we really having a discussion about what would happen if every single college football player got it? Do you know the odds of that happening?
Deer lowered sports can't start soon enough.
Those were the parameters jdr set, not me. But I think if you have a 100% figure, you can work your way back to something more reasonable.
I don't see how at least 50% of college football players don't get it.
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