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The polls I was referencing were national polls, not state.
I hear that...the average was about +7...but that was because a lot had lower numbers. I highlighted the MSM latest numbers to make it easier. Everything you're saying is right, I'm just saying it's even a bit worse than you're saying.

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Hey Guys.....What happened to the COVID? I don't see any more social distancing or masks. Hell all the people discussing the election are sitting shoulder to shoulder. WTF HAPPENED TO COVID???????

****Pelosi still wearing a mask
 
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Hey Guys.....What happened to the COVID? I don't see any more social distancing or masks. Hell all the people discussing the election are sitting shoulder to shoulder. WTF HAPPENED TO COVID???????
Trump will be the new pinata: "We're in this because of Trump, my hands are tied." But you will see/hear things you hadn't prior to the Scranton Man: mortality rate, excess mortality, actual hospital covid percentages, the term "false positive", and so forth.
 
For the William Bradley rumor talk, from the Sec. of State office in Michigan...

Ballots of voters who have died are rejected in Michigan, even if the voter cast an absentee ballot and then died before Election Day. On rare occasions, a ballot received for a living voter may be recorded in a way that makes it appear as if the voter is dead. This can be because of voters with similar names, where the ballot is accidentally recorded as voted by John Smith Sr when it was actually voted by John Smith Jr; or because of inaccurately recorded birth dates in the qualified voter file; for example, someone born in 1990 accidentally recorded as born in 1890. In such scenarios, no one ineligible has actually voted, and there is no impact on the outcome of the election. Local clerks can correct the issue when it is brought to their attention.
 
For the William Bradley rumor talk, from the Sec. of State office in Michigan...

Ballots of voters who have died are rejected in Michigan, even if the voter cast an absentee ballot and then died before Election Day. On rare occasions, a ballot received for a living voter may be recorded in a way that makes it appear as if the voter is dead. This can be because of voters with similar names, where the ballot is accidentally recorded as voted by John Smith Sr when it was actually voted by John Smith Jr; or because of inaccurately recorded birth dates in the qualified voter file; for example, someone born in 1990 accidentally recorded as born in 1890. In such scenarios, no one ineligible has actually voted, and there is no impact on the outcome of the election. Local clerks can correct the issue when it is brought to their attention.
So dumb it down for me, Mike (or Michael?). They're saying the reason for these errors could be 4-5 things...

...so they don't know of which error? Otherwise, they'd say, "Here's ballot 2468, we canceled it on this time at this location."

All they're doing is showing their stop gaps...not actually how it worked. Right? This seems like really, really bad crisis management.

They have to answer two incredibly easy questions:

1) Do you have indisputable evidence this ballot was not counted?
2) Can you say with 100% certainty that this ballot, or any other ballot similar to this that someone hasn't asked you about, hasn't been counted if you can't provide evidence that they were indeed not counted?
 
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So dumb it down for me, Mike (or Michael?). They're saying the reason for these errors could be 4-5 things...

...so they don't know of which error? Otherwise, they'd say, "Here's ballot 2468, we canceled it on this time at this location."

All they're doing is showing their stop gaps...not actually how it worked. Right? This seems like really, really bad crisis management.

They have to answer two incredibly easy questions:

1) Do you have indisputable evidence this ballot was not counted?
2) Can you say with 100% certainty that this ballot, or any other ballot similar to this that someone hasn't asked you about, hasn't been counted if you can't provide evidence that they were indeed not counted?

Sounded more like theory than showing actual proof that the ballot was not counted. Prove it or shut up I say.
 
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So dumb it down for me, Mike (or Michael?). They're saying the reason for these errors could be 4-5 things...

...so they don't know of which error? Otherwise, they'd say, "Here's ballot 2468, we canceled it on this time at this location."

All they're doing is showing their stop gaps...not actually how it worked. Right? This seems like really, really bad crisis management.

They have to answer two incredibly easy questions:

1) Do you have indisputable evidence this ballot was not counted?
2) Can you say with 100% certainty that this ballot, or any other ballot similar to this that someone hasn't asked you about, hasn't been counted if you can't provide evidence that they were indeed not counted?

Well I think they were just giving everyone an idea of each scenario. I don't expect them to come out for every single scenario to tell us why each disputed vote was rejected.

But that's why we have courts. If Trump's team sues and they find legit fraud, great. Until that point, it seems like the system we have in place to detect stuff like this is working.
 
Well I think they were just giving everyone an idea of each scenario. I don't expect them to come out for every single scenario to tell us why each disputed vote was rejected.

But that's why we have courts. If Trump's team sues and they fine legit fraud, great. Until that point, it seems like the system we have in place to detect stuff like this is working.
I mean....they weren't given a "scenario," they were given an example. It's easy, "Show me where William Bradley's vote was not counted."

It's not hard.
 
I mean....they weren't given a "scenario," they were given an example. It's easy, "Show me where William Bradley's vote was not counted."

It's not hard.

I guess they could do that, but then they have to go through and tell you why each and every ballot they rejected was rejected.

That's why we have courts. I'm sure they have enough on their plate right now to worry about than that.
 
I guess they could do that, but then they have to go through and tell you why each and every ballot they rejected was rejected.

That's why we have courts. I'm sure they have enough on their plate right now to worry about than that.
No....they wouldn't....

That would be what you were saying previously, "Given all hypotheticals, this is how we'd toss it out."

But if I come to you with a list of 5 names and say, did you count these and your response is, "Here are our measures to prevent fraud," you haven't answered my question.

The fact that they directly responded to these claims literally opens them up to these quesitons. Now they're acknowledging their presense in their database and that a vote was submitted.

No where in any of their responses have they said, "William Bradley's vote was not counted."
 
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I guess they could do that, but then they have to go through and tell you why each and every ballot they rejected was rejected.

That's why we have courts. I'm sure they have enough on their plate right now to worry about than that.
If it were flipped and Biden was saying this, you wouldn’t side with the GOP, i get it. Remove the bias what could the courts have on their plate more important than the integrity of a national election? You keep asking for proof, we keep giving it to you and you continually deny it. Again it’s probably not enough to change the election but it’s still voter fraud. It is a stain on our country. It is unacceptable. You can’t just be ok with a little bit of fraud. That’s like having a little bit of côck in your mouth. It’s either in there or it’s not
 
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If it were flipped and Biden was saying this, you wouldn’t side with the GOP, i get it. Remove the bias what could the courts have on their plate more important than the integrity of a national election? You keep asking for proof, we keep giving it to you and you continually deny it. Again it’s probably not enough to change the election but it’s still voter fraud. It is a stain on our country. It is unacceptable. You can’t just be ok with a little bit of fraud. That’s like having a little bit of côck in your mouth. It’s either in there or it’s not
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7 seasons of build up for "Winter" and they beat the white walkers in 1 episode. Unreal.
And they really didn't even beat them...one of the most insignificant characters in the whole thing just happened to judo herself out of nowhere and stab the mofo.

They spent 7 seasons building all these characters, who all happened to be in one place, and they went with one of the characters they pretty much wrote off for 2 seasons.

Brilliant.
 
And they really didn't even beat them...one of the most insignificant characters in the whole thing just happened to judo herself out of nowhere and stab the mofo.

They spent 7 seasons building all these characters, who all happened to be in one place, and they went with one of the characters they pretty much wrote off for 2 seasons.

Brilliant.
Have a secret love child that everyone thought was the prince that was promised and he ended up being like “naw, I don’t want it”.

Then brother in a wheelchair that was the most selfish dick of them all just says “sure, let me start democracy”

Dear God is Joe Bran the Broken?
 
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And they really didn't even beat them...one of the most insignificant characters in the whole thing just happened to judo herself out of nowhere and stab the mofo.

They spent 7 seasons building all these characters, who all happened to be in one place, and they went with one of the characters they pretty much wrote off for 2 seasons.

Brilliant.
Nah chillat w the Arya slander
 
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No....they wouldn't....

That would be what you were saying previously, "Given all hypotheticals, this is how we'd toss it out."

But if I come to you with a list of 5 names and say, did you count these and your response is, "Here are our measures to prevent fraud," you haven't answered my question.

The fact that they directly responded to these claims literally opens them up to these quesitons. Now they're acknowledging their presense in their database and that a vote was submitted.

No where in any of their responses have they said, "William Bradley's vote was not counted."

William Bradley is dead. The first sentence said "Ballots of voters who have died are rejected in Michigan "

Should be pretty cut and dry. Unless a lawsuit tells you otherwise, you have to presume the process works IMO.

Not sure about you, but I'm a "Trust the system works until it doesn't" kinda guy.
 
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Season 8 basically ruined this series for me. Every time I think about starting it again I think of how disappointed I'll be at the end.

Can't watch a series in which I don't want to finish it because of the final season.

On a related note, I never expect to get a completion of the series from GRRM. If be shocked if we get the next book honestly. Feel the same way with another series from Patrick Rothfuss called The Kingkiller Chronicles.
 
William Bradley is dead. The first sentence said "Ballots of voters who have died are rejected in Michigan "

Should be pretty cut and dry. Unless a lawsuit tells you otherwise, you have to presume the process works IMO.
I want to treat you with respect here...but you're doing yourself a real injustice...

If a cop pulls me over for speeding and I ask, "Did I get a speeding ticket?" If his response is, "People who speed get speeding tickets." I'm still going to fight like hell for that warning because it's also true that all people given warnings also sped.

The most simple of questions for you, where did they say William Bradley's vote was not counted? Not that in every example they can think of, the system should work. But show me your proof that it wasn't counted?

Right now, their proof is, "trust us."
 
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William Bradley is dead. The first sentence said "Ballots of voters who have died are rejected in Michigan "

Should be pretty cut and dry. Unless a lawsuit tells you otherwise, you have to presume the process works IMO.

Not sure about you, but I'm a "Trust the system works until it doesn't" kinda guy.
So when someone shows you were a mail in ballot was requested by a dead guy, given to a dead guy, and then returned by a dead guy.......you're still good.
 
I want to treat you with respect here...but you're doing yourself a real injustice...

If a cop pulls me over for speeding and I ask, "Did I get a speeding ticket?" If his response is, "People who speed get speeding tickets." I'm still going to fight like hell for that warning because it's also true that all people given warnings also sped.

The most simple of questions for you, where did they say William Bradley's vote was not counted? Not that in every example they can think of, the system should work. But show me your proof that it wasn't counted?

Right now, their proof is, "trust us."

Democrats 2016: Russia Interfered "Trust Us"
Democrats 2020: There's No Interference "Trust Us"
 
So when someone shows you were a mail in ballot was requested by a dead guy, given to a dead guy, and then returned by a dead guy.......you're still good.

This happens hundreds, if not thousands a time every election, that's why they have systems in place to stop it. Until it gets proven in court that it's legit and not just some banter on Twitter, then yeah, I'm good.
 
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Don't want to speak for DT, but as long as they're always rejected, I'd be good with it
Agreed. But if they're ALWAYS rejected...wouldn't you keep records of why/when you rejected things?

Wouldn't that lead to insane fraud if someone had the authority to reject shit without any recordkeeping.

Mark: Hey John, why did you throw that batch of Trump votes away?
John: They were all dead.
Mark: Oh, cool. Do we keep a record of those things?
John: No. But it's totally legit because I checked.
 
Agreed. But if they're ALWAYS rejected...wouldn't you keep records of why/when you rejected things?

Wouldn't that lead to insane fraud if someone had the authority to reject shit without any recordkeeping.

Mark: Hey John, why did you throw that batch off Trump votes away?
John: They were all dead.
Mark: Oh, cool. Do we keep a record of those things?
John: No. But it's totally legit because I checked.

You don't think they keep records? I'm sure they do. But that's stuff that's handled in court, you and me won't ever see it.

If the Trump team think it's legit, they can issue a subpeona to see the records of that. Will they? I doubt it because they probably know it's not legit.
 
This happens hundreds, if not thousands a time every election, that's why they have systems in place to stop it. Until it gets proven in court that it's legit and not just some banter on Twitter, then yeah, I'm good.
Here's a lawsuit filed in 2019.........

...in Detroit.


"The Michigan Bureau of Election "found no evidence of pervasive voter fraud," according to a 24-page audit, but noted that more than half of 136 Detroit precincts had nearly 600 questionable votes, which was reduced to 216 after extensive review. "
 
You don't think they keep records? I'm sure they do. But that's stuff that's handled in court, you and me won't ever see it.

If the Trump team think it's legit, they can issue a subpeona to see the records of that. Will they? I doubt it because they probably know it's not legit.
Dude...so if they keep the records.............why don't they go, "here's our fücking records showing it was rejected?"
 
Dude...so if they keep the records.............why don't they go, "here's our fücking records showing it was rejected?"

I don't know. lol

Probably because they get requests like this every election and they know it's dumb. If it's legit, it'll go to court.

Ever worked in government? I have. Wife still currently does. If my wife answered every frivulous request her office receives she would have no time to do her actual work.
 
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