Happy Solstice Season from SOPA

[hognation2007]

If I remember correctly he didn’t refuse service because of the individual. He refused because of the type of cake they wanted . It wasn’t because the individual was gay , but because of what was requested to be on the cake . He said because of his beliefs he would not make the cake. There is nothing discriminating about that . He does not have to make a cake a certain way just because you say so .

 

[c4life72404]

If I remember correctly he didn’t refuse service because of the individual. He refused because of the type of cake they wanted . It wasn’t because the individual was gay , but because of what was requested to be on the cake . He said because of his beliefs he would not make the cake. There is nothing discriminating about that . He does not have to make a cake a certain way just because you say so .

I was saving that. Was hoping he would dig himself deeper with that.

It doesn't fit the agenda of the morally outraged, so why let facts get in the way of a good social injustice story...

 

[SOPA]

I have directly quoted you on everything you've said, so not sure why you're moving the goalposts here. That being said...I'll play.

He didn't "get off". There's no federal law requiring businesses to provide service to the LGBT community.

Do you believe you should have the right to refuse service to a Christian if you don't agree with their "silly" ideas?

Ok back up lol. I had like 3 or 4 posting at me the past 40 minutes so i think i got you confused with another poster who replied, i responded to you thinking you were another poster but whatever. My bad...

You're stuck on the cake baker but still think you have it twisted and yes he did get off and then he didnt. It did go to court but still think we're way off track on the subject at hand

https://aclu-co.org/court-rules-bakery-illegally-discriminated-against-gay-couple/

The conversation was in reference to a poster asking why i care what others believe? I noted that i cared because laws are created based religious beliefs that affect my yours truly. Secondly, i personally believe the human race could advance at extraordinary rates if religion was absence from the world. The world would be much better off if religion was set to the side. Religion is poison and i have history that proves this

 

[c4life72404]

1. I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

2. It's better to be silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Happy Festivus, SOPA. You're not built for this kinda stuff, so no fun in continuing.

 

[SOPA]

If I remember correctly he didn’t refuse service because of the individual. He refused because of the type of cake they wanted . It wasn’t because the individual was gay , but because of what was requested to be on the cake . He said because of his beliefs he would not make the cake. There is nothing discriminating about that . He does not have to make a cake a certain way just because you say so .

Non-sense!!! Its too late to get into it but this is all documented. Maybe tomorrow i can share more specifics but you're way off track

 

[c4life72404]

Ok back up lol. I had like 3 or 4 posting at me the past 40 minutes so i think i got you confused with another poster who replied, i responded to you thinking you were another poster but whatever. My bad...

You're stuck on the cake baker but still think you have it twisted and yes he did get off and then he didnt. It did go to court but still think we're way off track on the subject at hand

https://aclu-co.org/court-rules-bakery-illegally-discriminated-against-gay-couple/

The conversation was in reference to a poster asking why i care what others believe? I noted that i cared because laws are created based religious beliefs that affect my yours truly. Secondly, i personally believe the human race could advance at extraordinary rates if religion was absence from the world. The world would be much better off if religion was set to the side. Religion is poison and i have history that proves this

But your views on religion are just YOUR opinion...just like those that are religious have "religious" opinions. Just because you think you're more enlightened doesn't give you any more right to crap all over other's beliefs. You complain about "laws" created because of religion, but then belittle those that have beliefs/opinions based on religion.

It's a catch 22, man.

Either way, why keep bringing this shit here? The funny thing is that I'm not religious...lol.

 

[c4life72404]

Ok back up lol. I had like 3 or 4 posting at me the past 40 minutes so i think i got you confused with another poster who replied, i responded to you thinking you were another poster but whatever. My bad...

You're stuck on the cake baker but still think you have it twisted and yes he did get off and then he didnt. It did go to court but still think we're way off track on the subject at hand

https://aclu-co.org/court-rules-bakery-illegally-discriminated-against-gay-couple/

The conversation was in reference to a poster asking why i care what others believe? I noted that i cared because laws are created based religious beliefs that affect my yours truly. Secondly, i personally believe the human race could advance at extraordinary rates if religion was absence from the world. The world would be much better off if religion was set to the side. Religion is poison and i have history that proves this

So you cited a ruling in Colorado that was overturned by the Supreme Court?

 

[SOPA]

But your views on religion are just YOUR opinion...just like those that are religious have "religious" opinions. Just because you think you're more enlightened doesn't give you any more right to crap all over other's beliefs. You complain about "laws" created because of religion, but then belittle those that have beliefs/opinions based on religion.

It's a catch 22, man.

Either way, why keep bringing this shit here? The funny thing is that I'm not religious...lol.

Not opinions, abundance of evidence noting individuals who have done very bad deeds on behalf of religion. We could write a 10,000 page book documenting bad deeds throughout history based off religious doctrine. Starting with the bible...

 

[SOPA]

But your views on religion are just YOUR opinion...just like those that are religious have "religious" opinions. Just because you think you're more enlightened doesn't give you any more right to crap all over other's beliefs. You complain about "laws" created because of religion, but then belittle those that have beliefs/opinions based on religion.

It's a catch 22, man.

Either way, why keep bringing this shit here? The funny thing is that I'm not religious...lol.

Folks worship a god who condones slavery, forcing a daughter to marry their rapist, the slaughtering of women and children. I could go on for a week with this non-sense. People worship this thing that did very evil things to the human race...thats not ok...

 

[Jen Squealema]

Folks worship a god who condones slavery, forcing a daughter to marry their rapist, the slaughtering of women and children. I could go on for a week with this non-sense. People worship this thing that did very evil things to the human race...thats not ok...

If you’re older than 22, you really should be embarrassed

Pseudo intellectuals are the worst

 

[HogPocket9455]

Sopa is a nut job who now refers to himself in the 3rd person while thinking he is the voice of reason. Like I said, you are the poster child for hypocrisy. If somebody else wants to worship an english muffin and tell everybody, it's none of your business. If you don't want to see it don't look. If you don't want to hear it, stop eavesdropping.

English muffins are gross. Now I might buy into a scone cult.

 

[HogPocket9455]

If you’re older than 22, you really should be embarrassed

Pseudo intellectuals are the worst

That’s certainly the issue here. There is plenty about religion to have real conversations about. But this is a kid that sat through an intro to philosophy and a youtube Video level of “logic.”

 

[eezycheez]

Say what you want but Happy Solsist Season got more replies than Merry Christmas. It’s crazy how much people love to be pissed off. Underrated post SOPA!

 

[pokerpig]

Not sure what it said because it was deleted. Can you refresh at all? Make something very clear though, never intentionally attack an individual for their beliefs, however, i will attack silly ideas so we can start there?

Did you just say "never intentionally attack an individual for their beliefs" and then say "I will attack silly ideas"? Seems as though you've appointed yourself as the over seer of everyone's ideas, and therefore you're the last word on whether beliefs are are just silly ideas, or someones "individual beliefs". I think your ideas are kinda silly, but you're entitled to them, however you're not entitled to mine. MERRY CHRISTMAS and God bless.

 

[HogTime]

Huh? Is that in reference to something I've said?

And what does the 1st ammeamend have to do with it anyways? Freedom of speech has nothing to do with a privately owned message board. 1st amendment is probably the most misused/misunderstood "rights".

The Baker case.

 

[Wild Hoggie]

Yeah, b/c you couldn't buy your beer for Sunday on Saturday night. If there were only one baker, you would have a point, but there are plenty of bakers that don't care about such things. If the Christian baker doesn't want your business, just take it elsewhere. Gay folks can get married now, time to quit ing about it and no longer a cause to use as an excuse to be the sick SOB you are.

Sopa is sealing Sopa's fate here for I'm sure the last time. Sopa can keep stirring up crap and ticking off the board's customers, but sopa will be needing a new place to do it if he keeps it up.

Say what you want but Happy Solsist Season got more replies than Merry Christmas. It’s crazy how much people love to be pissed off. Underrated post SOPA!

But if you look at the Merry Christmas replies, it's by several people posting one time.
On this thread it's like 3 people who keep it going.

 

[Wild Hoggie]

Sopa gets hit by a truck!

 

[BygCountry]

I woke up expecting a ban hammer thread. Sad someone who is only here to hurt others is still here

 

[BygCountry]

X

 

[JunkyardHawg]

I woke up expecting a ban hammer thread. Sad someone who is only here to hurt others is still here

He's been temporarily banned. Hopefully everyone is not too terribly sad from Sopa that they don't have a bad Christmas.

Personally, I'm a moderate Christian Male that served six years in the Army. I have my own testimony and am absolutely 100 percent certain that God is Good all of the time.

 

[eezycheez]

He's been temporarily banned. Hopefully everyone is not too terribly sad from Sopa that they don't have a bad Christmas.

Personally, I'm a moderate Christian Male that served six years in the Army. I have my own testimony and am absolutely 100 percent certain that God is Good all of the time.

Banned for what?

 

[ADJT]

Yes - banned for what exactly? I think he’s very obnoxious , but don’t think that’s a reason to be banned.

 

[JunkyardHawg]

Banned for what?

I'll explain because I like you.

Excessive flame baiting. It's against the rule and anyone that thinks he wasn't trying to provoke then I don't know what to tell you. Guess it should've been called a "Time Out". The board is pretty damn loose these days and he was over the top.

In the future, this is the only rule that matters

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[eezycheez]

I'll explain because I like you.

Excessive flame baiting. It's against the rule and anyone that thinks he wasn't trying to provoke then I don't know what to tell you. Guess it should've been called a "Time Out". The board is pretty damn loose these days and he was over the top.

In the future, this is the only rule that matters

By subscribing, registering or using the sites, you agree that Rivals and or the publisher(s) and board moderators of the sites have the right, in addition to other rights, to delete your posts or blacklist you or any other user at any time, if they believe that action is in the best interest of the sites, for whatever reason, and the reason need not be disclosed.

I agree that he was trolling, I said that above. But he wasn’t exactly lying in the OP.

 

[JunkyardHawg]

I agree that he was trolling, I said that above. But he wasn’t exactly lying in the OP.

Not gonna argue Eezy. You're one of the dudes I like on here. You didn't see some of his posts that were deleted.

 

[JunkyardHawg]

Just a little FYI, Sopa is direct messaging me. Being courteous but he's added in his sig line for the private messages two Jesus looking dudes making out.

Tryna' troll me but it ain't workin'.

 

[eezycheez]

Not gonna argue Eezy. You're one of the dudes I like on here. You didn't see some of his posts that were deleted.

Well, the original post was funny. However, he should have left it there and walked away. You don’t drop an A-Bomb and then keep circling around through the mushroom cloud.

 

[JunkyardHawg]

Well, the original post was funny. However, he should have left it there and walked away. You don’t drop an A-Bomb and then keep circling around through the mushroom cloud.

I laffed.

 

[Wallyhogg]

weak ass troll and Merry Christmas

 

[omicron488]

Religion is simply an idea. All idea's should be questioned and critiqued. Its how we grow. The idea of an invisible man in the sky is absurd. SOPA doesn't criticize people but rather an idea one might have, if you have a bad idea, ill be the first to let you know...religion doesnt get a special seat at the table

First of all, we do not think of our God as an invisible man in the sky. Atheists and secularists want to reduce Him to that kind of concept. So if you are saying that the idea of an invisible man in the sky is absurd, because God is so much greater than that concept, I quite agree with you. If you are using that phrase to mock the faith of Christians, then that is what an un-believer would say. I agree that religion is an idea, but Jesus was and is a real person, and everyone decides one way or the other about believing that He is "I AM" (God), or not.

 

[fisherhog]

Hope i'm not too late! Saw it earlier but was too busy celebrating CHRISTmas with the fam.

 

[Jen Squealema]

He's been temporarily banned. Hopefully everyone is not too terribly sad from Sopa that they don't have a bad Christmas.

Personally, I'm a moderate Christian Male that served six years in the Army. I have my own testimony and am absolutely 100 percent certain that God is Good all of the time.

Appreciate the gesture but he is who he is. He’ll just be the same prick with zero maturity or self control when he gets back

 

[Jen Squealema]

Just a little FYI, Sopa is direct messaging me. Being courteous but he's added in his sig line for the private messages two Jesus looking dudes making out.

Tryna' troll me but it ain't workin'.

No hope

 

[BygCountry]

I agree that he was trolling, I said that above. But he wasn’t exactly lying in the OP.

I agree that it might not be a lie, but I think this is a problem of intent, not content. Although what he said could be totally factual, he only did it to hurt and undermine others. That's his MO. Even in normal threads he just tries to get a rise out of people.

 

[BygCountry]

No hope

should get a permanent ban. I agree.

 

[eezycheez]

I agree that it might not be a lie, but I think this is a problem of intent, not content. Although what he said could be totally factual, he only did it to hurt and undermine others. That's his MO. Even in normal threads he just tries to get a rise out of people.

You right but it’s still a choice to get pissed about it.

Like I said, people love to be pissed and they especially love a good lightning rod. SOPA made people happy last night.

 

[omicron488]

From "Christmas Theories Compete", December 25, 2004, the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette: In AD 274, the Roman Emperor Aurelian, inaugurated Dec. 25 as the pagan "Birth of the Unconquered Sun". Supposedly Christians borrowed the date and devised Christmas to compete with paganism. Is there evidence to compete with this theory? Consider this: in the "Handbook of Biblical Chronology" by professor Jack Finegan, he cites an important reference in the "Chronicle" written by Hippolytus of Rome three decades before Aurelian launched his festival. Hippolytus writes the birth of Jesus "took place eight days before the kalends of January", that is, December 25.

William Tighe, a church history specialist said, "There is evidence that as early as the second and third centuries, Christians sought to fix the birth of date to help determine the time of Jesus's death and resurrection for the liturgical calendar; long before Christmas also became a festival.

The "integral age" concept, taught by ancient Judaism, held that Israel's great prophets died the same day as their birth or conception. Tighe says Christians applied this idea to Jesus and set the Passover period as March 25 for the Feast of the Anunciation, marking the angel Gabriel's announcement to Mary that she would give birth. Add nine months to the conception date and we get December 25.

St. John Chrysostom of Constantinople, who died in 407 A.D., wrote that Christians had marked December 25, as the day of the birth of Jesus, since the early days of the church. There is another argument concerning Zechariah, the father of John the Baptist, and when he was on duty in Jerusalem in the Temple. His wife was Elizabeth and Mary was cousin to her. A calculation of when Zechariah's priestly class was serving in the Temple puts it as October 2-5. Shortly after is when Elizabeth conceived John the Baptist. Mary visited Elizabeth six months later after her conception which would have been in March and birth nine months later would have been in December.

 

[eezycheez]

 

[Wallyhogg]

How about this Merry Christmas and to you godless heathens Merry Christmas

 

[black wallstreet]

Folks worship a god who condones slavery, forcing a daughter to marry their rapist, the slaughtering of women and children. I could go on for a week with this non-sense. People worship this thing that did very evil things to the human race...thats not ok...

That's because Christians don't actually read the bible. They say God is love and and John 3:16 and ignore everything else. You can not ignore that Christmas comes from the winter solstice and the birth of Nimrod. Even the gifts under the tree go back to pagan babylonian worship, just like Easter.