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Myke Tavarres

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Every life matters. Period. But what you do with that life is up to you in a free society. It isn't anyone's job to prop myself or anyone else up. But on a personal level it's the right thing to do. The responsibility of the government is not the same as the moral responsibility we have as citizens. The more control the government has the less freedoms are afforded to its citizens. We have a death tax.... think about that. That's some straight up 1400s prima nocta BS right there. And here it is in 2016 in a free society.
 
It's the How that is the problem not the whyear. I hear your race bait undertones loud and clear... and I openly reject them. I see this no different than a white person who says they want to move to Canada. Don't let the door hit ya in the backside. I even offered a solution in my post. Use your status as a celebrity to speak out. Unfortunately for him his status is dimming as a player. It's not bitching about the message it's disagreeing with the disrespect he showed to the nation that gave him his opportunity.

There are layers of the BLM movement. Some are on point some are out of this world. Some is bought and paid for agitation for the sake of pandemonium. Some is sincerely righteous. You want to paint with a broad brush that conservatives thing ALL of BLM is bad and in the same breath say conservatives are the ones who are judgemental. Again the offended can't see their own offenses.

"Race bait," LOL.
 
His new GF is a radical Muslim. He converted to Muslim. HE CAN NOT SUPPORT THE US or ISIS will take him out. His stance has nothing to do with African American or racism. He is lying to cover up his new Muslim beliefs. Heck he even look like a Isis RagHead.

That seems pretty out there and hard to believe.

That said, I laugh at the irony of the guy protesting oppression in the US and then rocking a tee shirt praising Fidel Castro in the post game presser:

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"Race bait," LOL.
"conversation in the town square" LOL

The only conversation going on now is tearing his decision to disrespect our flag/anthem to shreds. The contention it causes between opposing views doesn't unite anyone. It further divides. Saying you want one thing but taking action to produce the exact opposite goes against all logic. We don't need anymore gamesmanship on either side. We need real leaders taking real actions to unite all parties. I don't see that happening anywhere.
 
That seems pretty out there and hard to believe.

That said, I laugh at the irony of the guy protesting oppression in the US and then rocking a tee shirt praising Fidel Castro in the post game presser:

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Well of course. Castro gives his people everything. He "takes care" of them all. Not like the USA who stands in the way of life and liberty..... what is this bizarro world? But somehow our youth have been brainwashed into thinking socialisim is the path to greatness and not what it really is, one step away from communism.

Go to Cuba young man and speak out against the governemt there. See what happens to ya. Good luck with that!
 


His new GF is a radical Muslim. He converted to Muslim. HE CAN NOT SUPPORT THE US or ISIS will take him out. His stance has nothing to do with African American or racism. He is lying to cover up his new Muslim beliefs. Heck he even look like a Isis RagHead.

Well if that's the case someone will probably give him a hard time. There's still a few African Americans in every locker room that realize the GREAT opportunity to play in the NFL
 
Seems there are two sides that people stand on, regarding the national anthem and our flag. Some of us look at the national anthem and flag representing the people and all of our struggles to overcome and living in a great nation where dreams really can come true and the acceptance of people from all over the world. Others see the national anthem and flag representing our government.

Nailed it.

I stand for the anthem out of respect for those that have come before me and for what they have built and allowed me to enjoy and (hopefully) contribute to.

My personal opinions on politics and government would certainly keep me seated if I felt the anthem and pledge was for them.
 
Nailed it.

I stand for the anthem out of respect for those that have come before me and for what they have built and allowed me to enjoy and (hopefully) contribute to.

My personal opinions on politics and government would certainly keep me seated if I felt the anthem and pledge was for them.

Yep. Plenty I'm not happy about. Individuals. Communities. Groups. That doesn't mean that I believe the USA stands for what they stand for.
 
I interpreted his actions as speaking on behalf of others, not necessarily himself. I think it took quite the sack to do what he did because a.) he had to know he was going to catch hell for it, b.) he's battling for a job that's not guaranteed, and c.) he put endorsements at risk.

The same constitution that guarantees the right to bear arms guarantees this guy's right to free speech. I love hearing conservatives (not necessarily you, BHF) bitch and moan about the black lives matter movement because of their disruptive protests, while at the same time bitching and moaning about a peaceful, non-disruptive protest like Kaepernick's. Say what you will, but his actions have thrust the conversation back into the town square, if only for a week. If for no other reason than that, he was successful in his efforts.

It baffles me when anyone, not just liberals agree that it's alright to disrespect our flag. Whether it be burning it or not at least standing up and recognizing it. The country that flag represents is paying him about 20 million this year.

If he doesn't want to stand and give the country he's getting filthy rich on, the respect it deserves, then he can go find a place of work that does.
 
It baffles me when anyone, not just liberals agree that it's alright to disrespect our flag. Whether it be burning it or not at least standing up and recognizing it. The country that flag represents is paying him about 20 million this year.

If he doesn't want to stand and give the country he's getting filthy rich on, the respect it deserves, then he can go find a place of work that does.

Didn't realize the government paid NFL players' salaries.
 
Well of course. Castro gives his people everything. He "takes care" of them all. Not like the USA who stands in the way of life and liberty..... what is this bizarro world? But somehow our youth have been brainwashed into thinking socialisim is the path to greatness and not what it really is, one step away from communism.

Go to Cuba young man and speak out against the governemt there. See what happens to ya. Good luck with that!

That's one reality show I would watch.
 
To say there are a FEW AA in every locker room that realize the great opportunity they have is ridiculous.

Ok, maybe should have said quite a few. To think that every team doesn't have quite a few on each team that don't fully recognize their great opportunities, would be quite naive.

Getting a little bit off topic. How many arrests are made every year on players from the NFL.?

Going out doing stupid stuff that jeopardizes a great opportunity is ridiculous. Whether it be whites, AA, or any other people.
 
Use your voice, but don't disrespect the very symbol that gives you that voice without fear of persecution. I support protest, it is everyone's right to do so, but I think it takes away from the focus of what you are trying to protest when you use a national symbol to do so. That form of protest will always become the conversation instead of what you are trying to draw attention to.
 
Ok, maybe should have said quite a few. To think that every team doesn't have quite a few on each team that don't fully recognize their great opportunities, would be quite naive.

Getting a little bit off topic.
And probably quite a few white players too?
 
So because he makes a lot of money in a business permitted to exist by the United States government, he shouldn't critique that government?

Critiquing the government is one thing, disrespecting our flag is another. Hell, the founding fathers encouraged critiquing and questioning of the government itself. They also said that the populace should be educated in such matters, but obviously wearing a Castro t-shirt to speak out for the oppressed indicates otherwise.
 
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that there are quite a few people that are outraged by Colin Kaepernick's lack of patriotism that will be voting for the presidential candidate that continues to say that this country is terrible. That has said "our military is a disaster", that has repeatedly insulted a gold star family, that said John McCain isn't a war hero. I could go on forever with these examples of disrespect toward this country and our military. One of those guys gets your vote for the presidency while the other shouldn't be allowed to play football. Makes perfect sense.
 
His new GF is a radical Muslim. He converted to Muslim. HE CAN NOT SUPPORT THE US or ISIS will take him out. His stance has nothing to do with African American or racism. He is lying to cover up his new Muslim beliefs. Heck he even look like a Isis RagHead.

Please link source demonstrating that Kaepernick has converted to Islam. (Not that it matters if he actually did - freedom of speech is not limited by one's religious affiliation.)
And by source I mean something with a modicum of credibility. Thanks.
 
"Kaepernick has multiple tattoos. His right arm features a scroll with the Bible verse Psalm 18:39 written on it. Tattooed under the scroll are praying hands with the phrase "To God The Glory" written on them. To the left of both the scroll and praying hands is the word "Faith" written vertically. His left arm features a Christian cross with the words "Heaven Sent" on it referring to Jesus. Written above and below the cross is the phrase "GOD WILL GUIDE ME". Written to the left and right of the cross is the Bible verse Psalm 27:3. His chest features the phrase "Against All Odds" and artwork around it that represents "inner strength, spiritual growth, and humility". His back features a mural of angels against demons."

Screw that guy right?
 
His new GF is a radical Muslim. He converted to Muslim. HE CAN NOT SUPPORT THE US or ISIS will take him out. His stance has nothing to do with African American or racism. He is lying to cover up his new Muslim beliefs. Heck he even look like a Isis RagHead.

Serious question for you, aside from being an obvious bigot, do you even care that you are full of shit? Do facts matter to you at all, or is truth trumped by hate in your world? He's not muslim. His girlfriend is, but she's also an MTV host. That may be radical in a Bill and Ted's sense of the word but I'm guessing that isn't what you meant. So either you need to make stuff up to feel better about your bigoted opinions or you are just a moron.
 
Serious question for you, aside from being an obvious bigot, do you even care that you are full of shit? Do facts matter to you at all, or is truth trumped by hate in your world? He's not muslim. His girlfriend is, but she's also an MTV host. That may be radical in a Bill and Ted's sense of the word but I'm guessing that isn't what you meant. So either you need to make stuff up to feel better about your bigoted opinions or you are just a moron.
Honest question not trying to flame, are you as quick to Insult and call people names in the real world as you are on this message board??
 
Honest question not trying to flame, are you as quick to Insult and call people names in the real world as you are on this message board??

Yes if I saw someone calling people "RagHeads" in public I would say something just as quick. Thankfully, stuff like that doesn't happen near as often in the real world as it does online.
 
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Yes if I saw someone calling people "RagHeads" in public I would say something just as quick.
Cool bud, do you go to the games? I don't drink but maybe I could buy you a beer one of these weekends. Seem like you would be an interesting fellow to have a conversation with
 
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