But it's the way that they are doing it that's the problem. If they would just protest in a way where nobody had to see it, hear it, or know that it existed, people would be 100% on board.
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But it's the way that they are doing it that's the problem. If they would just protest in a way where nobody had to see it, hear it, or know that it existed, people would be 100% on board.
If Mike told them that they couldn't protest, he could potentially be fired. This is a First Amendment issue (FYI - that's the amendment that comes before the 2nd Amendment, which I am sure you support).
I was really impressed with how Jeff Long and Jimmy Dykes handled that situation last night. I hope MA handles it the same way and I'll be proud to have him as our coach if he does.
If you want to protest that's fine but I honestly question if all of these people that decide to kneel even know what there protesting anymore or if there doing it bc it is becoming a fad. If your protesting police brutality then go protest at your local law enforcement peacefully, you don't have to show dishonor toward your country and those who died defending it all bc you want to protest a tiny group of people that has nothing to do with the American flag or the national anthem.
I hope that MA has a team meeting and strongly discouraged his team showing this kind of disrespect towards the flag and the anthem...
I hope that MA has a team meeting and strongly discouraged his team showing this kind of disrespect towards the flag and the anthem...
How is kneeling during the anthem dishonoring the military? Who decided that putting your hand over your heart is more honorary than kneeling?
So your idea of honoring your country and those who died defending it is to deny people the rights most representative of that country and the rights that those people died defending?
Half these people complaining don't even know the words to the national anthem
Please inform me how protesting during the national anthem affects police brutality at all? I'm fine with them peacefully protesting but IMO they aren't solving anything other than causing arguments and putting a negative light on the university...
The real issue is a sin/heart issue that our country has and the enemy has us arguing about this rather than sin itself. But hey, I'm just sipping tea.
You clearly aren't fine with them peacefully protesting. You are fine with them peacefully protesting only in the ways that you see fit.
The purpose is to start a discussion and shed light on an issue that, quite frankly, many people in this country don't know exists.
They gave the best "politically correct statement" they could.
That is false. Coaches place rules on players all of the time. They deny them the ability to speak with the media, some don't allow long hair, each team has their own set of rules. You can look at the Nebraska players, if they had a team rule in their football handbook that stated they had to stand for the anthem, they would have had to stand or face punishment. I'll bet you money that Nebraska has that in place for next season as will other teams.
So your telling me you see nothing disrespectful about sitting during the national anthem while soldiers are holding the flag that they put there life on the line to defend? If you don't see that as being disrespectful then my guess is you probably don't hold doors open for women or say sir or mam when replying to someone. That's just the way I was raised and that line of thinking will not change I promise you that...
The only thing being discussed is whether this is disrespectful or not... Helps the cause non at all IMO
Perhaps that is the first step. There are some in this country that apparently don't think all rights should apply to all Americans. Or they think that anyone that doesn't share their belief system is disrespectful. Opinions are going to differ but rights should not. Maybe once we can agree on that we can start to dig into some of these larger civil rights issues that continue to be a problem.
Yes I know. You think that everyone should think the way you think. That is your right.
I say sir and ma'am and I open doors, in addition to recognizing that kneeling isn't the same as sitting and that protesting police brutality doesn't mean you disrespect the military.
Wrong!
I'm only talking about showing respect. Not wanting everyone to think like me...
Your ideology is shaping what you view as respectful/disrespectful. Not everyone views the flag or the anthem as a symbol of our military. Just because you feel that way doesn't mean that everyone else does or should. I've not heard one of these protesters say that their kneeling has anything to do with the military. They've actually been very clear that it doesn't, and many members of the military are supporting them.
I respectfully disagree with razorback 9455 as well as the expression. The right to protest and disagree with governmental policy or perceived opinions are our right, however the forum that we deliver our protests in should not come at the expense of those who support and provide you with a chance for higher learning. Razorback athletes can be given a full scholarship or possibly a discounted one based on grants or other means. If our athletes don't at least respect our way of life they should be kept in the locker room until our Anthem has been played. Ms Danberry stated "black people and people of color are being attacked and we just wanted to speak out and make a difference". Again, she certainly has a right to her opinion but displaying it at our school's playing of the national anthem is wrong. As for Jimmy Dykes, he might want to check into what Coach John Wooden said to his star player Bill Walton. Walton refused to cut his hair and told his coach he had no right to tell him otherwise. Coach Wooden advised him that he was representing UCLA and he had to cut his hair. Walton again refused and told Coach Wooden again that he did not have the right to do so. Coach Wooden agreed that he did not have that right but as Coach of the Bruins he did have a right to decide who plays and " We're certainly going to miss you Bill". Needless to say, Walton cut his hair!
That's insane. The First Amendment does not guarantee one the right to play in a basketball game. If the Coach does't like what you are saying ( protest or otherwise) or doing, he can sit you on the bench or kick you off the team.
Hell a girl was killed this week over a cell phone, was on the news for one day.
I guess people seem to think it has to be a police officer doing it to protest.
Totally disagree with this. Soldiers don't take a knee during colors. Don't go there. You don't know what you're talking about.
You mean they were rustling old white mens jimmies?
BTW- Mike told them not to kneel.
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