Originally posted by hogatexan:
Originally posted by gbbaber:
Originally posted by hogatexan:
Originally posted by gbbaber:
Originally posted by hogatexan:
Okay I get why most believe that what Serg and Fuzzy said was racial... but let's think about this for a sec....
People are making fun of what other people eat.... is that in itself racial? When, as a society, did everyone become SO sensitive that we can not make or poke fun at what someone eats? Is it a racial slur to laugh at Wang Chow because he likes egg rolls? What if Tiger was white and Serg inserted hot dogs and apple pie where fried chicken was? Would that have been acceptable? People make fun of what I eat and I don't take offense because I am a cracker... I have friends of all ethnic backgrounds and we all make fun of each other and I guarantee none of us are either racist or bigots...
Is it just the context in which it was used? If Serg was black would it have been a big deal? I do not like Serg in the least so I am not taking his side in this but it is not like he called him names or anything... I agree he does need to shut up and be a grown up... I just think our society has gotten a little too sensitive maybe... maybe I am wrong?
This post was edited on 5/22 2:46 PM by hogatexan
Okay. Saying "Wang Chow" for a random Chinese person is racially insensitive. So the idea that you think that's OK to throw that out there tells us most of what we need to know about your understanding of the subject. It's not about talking about what people eat. It's about stereotyping groups of people.
It's funny how white people always get so up at arms when someone takes offense to a racist comment. "You can call me a cracker, I don't care." You also didn't spend the history of this continent being oppressed. You also haven't been belittled for the color of your skin or laughed at for your customs. "Look at me, the poor white man, always getting the short end of the stick." Ha!
And drop the "I've got friends of all ethnic backgrounds line." No, you don't. And you don't sit around a fire with your black, Mexican, and Chinese friend and tell racist jokes. Nobody believes that.
This post was edited on 5/22 2:56 PM by gbbaber
I don't give a shit what you believe or don't believe... you are the one that is all fired up over this not me... you just keep proving my point about being overly sensitive... I do not have to prove shit to you... just because you are not white does not mean you are the only person or group of people that has suffered any kind of discrimination, give me a break with that crap... there is discrimination all over the place and I have had my share of it throughout my life too but I don't go around all angry and wanting to pick fights because of it... Nor do I call people liars either... Who said anything about racist jokes? And, yes, I do have all kinds of different ethnic friends... they are just not angry and uptight like some I know...
Life is too short...
I'm not really fired up over it. It's a tired old argument. Something racist gets said or done, a bunch of 45+ white men get upset that anyone thinks it's racist, then before you know it everybody has a best friend who is black and who isn't sensitive at all. Believe it or not, you're not the first person to go through that progression.
You don't care what I believe, fine. But why did you try to justify your stance? If you don't care what I or anyone else believes, why say anything on the subject at all? Why start talking about not having to prove stuff? If that isn't the point, then what is?
Do you honestly think that as a white person you've faced the same type of discrimination in this country as a typical non-white person? Seriously? I can't imagine that you really feel that way, so once again I'm lost as to the point you are trying to make.
You don't have to be racially sensitive. You can be as racist as you want. That's the great thing about this country, we get to believe what we want to believe. But with that sort of outlook you're going to have people take exception, so if you want to talk about it you have to realize that everyone's not going to agree with you. Racism, insensitivity, stereotyping...that's not really the direction we're going to be taking as a society. Sorry.
First of all, don't assume that you know me, know who I hang out with or who my friends are...or that I am a 45+ white male. Also, don't presume that I am "a typical white person". Is that not an insensitive racial remark? What does that even mean?
I believe that what Serg said was in fact an insensitive racial remark. Whether he meant it or not. I also believe that people make comments that are not racial in tone but are taken that way by overly sensitive people. That was my point.
I asked a simple question with a simple explanation as to why I was asking. I got from you that I was lying about who my friends are, that I couldn't possibly have been discriminated against more that you or other non-white people and that I'm a racist, just for asking the question. You stopped reading after Wang.
Are you so short sighted to think that you, as non-white person, are the only group of people that gets discriminated against?
Or that has some bigot try to beat the crap out of you? This is not some pissing contest to see whom has been discriminated against the most. You act as if, just gathering from what you've written, that discrimination and bigotry are reserved only for non-white people. Nobody could ever possibility be more discriminated against than you, or other non-white people. Which is laughable at best.
I certainly do not need to come on a sports message board and tell my life history just to prove to someone that I'm not lying about being discriminated against. That is one reason that I don't care what you think, that wasn't the point. It's truly laughable that someone could be considered a racist simply for asking other peoples opinions about our society becoming overly sensitive. Try not being so defensive, taking a step back, and look in the mirror.
I did not resort to name calling. You did that all on your own. Sorry you feel the way you do...you could not be any further from the truth.
Sorry to everyone else for the rant. I felt I had to defend myself. I do think Sergio is an ass...Carry on.
This post was edited on 5/22 9:30 PM by hogatexan