OT Where do you stand on Issue 4?
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At this point you’re probably right. Except the ones turning 18 every year (or 21, whatever the age is)
Many won’t go back and get the cards if it passes.
I don’t want it to pass for a few reasons but not bc I think rec is a bad thing.
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The state revoked one of the cultivator's licenses today. Holy $hit
The state notified Judge Herb Wright in a letter Monday that it is moving forward with revoking the cultivation license of River Valley Relief Cultivation after the judge ruled last week that a state commission had issued the license in error.
The letter from Senior Assistant Attorney General Kate Donoven, who represented the state agency defendants in the case, said “This letter is to advise the Court that the defendants are taking the necessary steps to revoke the cultivation license at issue in the above captioned case in compliance with the Court’s order dated November 3, 2022.”
The letter seems to be an indication that the state will not appeal Wright’s ruling in which the judge found the state Medical Marijuana Commission should not have awarded a cultivation license to Storm Nolan and River Valley Relief Cultivation in 2020.
In his ruling last week, Wright stopped short of revoking River Valley’s license, saying that did not fall within his authority but did say that the state should “take all steps necessary to remedy these violations.”
The state notified Judge Herb Wright in a letter Monday that it is moving forward with revoking the cultivation license of River Valley Relief Cultivation after the judge ruled last week that a state commission had issued the license in error.
The letter from Senior Assistant Attorney General Kate Donoven, who represented the state agency defendants in the case, said “This letter is to advise the Court that the defendants are taking the necessary steps to revoke the cultivation license at issue in the above captioned case in compliance with the Court’s order dated November 3, 2022.”
The letter seems to be an indication that the state will not appeal Wright’s ruling in which the judge found the state Medical Marijuana Commission should not have awarded a cultivation license to Storm Nolan and River Valley Relief Cultivation in 2020.
In his ruling last week, Wright stopped short of revoking River Valley’s license, saying that did not fall within his authority but did say that the state should “take all steps necessary to remedy these violations.”
The judge presiding over the case is named Herb? You can't make this shit up.
I believe I may have been incorrect in my earlier posts. After re-reading it does appear that issue 4 would add 12 cultivators with that 250 cap. That doesn’t make any sense to me, but it does appear that you were correct with your previous post. My apologies for stating otherwise!
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All good!
I would assume someone put that in there to protect the original 8 cultivators so that they wouldn't face more opposition to it.
Got a for from me. Never touched the stuff and don’t plan on it either way, but I can see the benefits
Obviously just personal…
Using rec weed to get tons
of other dollars for more spending
on jargon
Without decriminalizing out right it
does nothing for herbal (pricing ,
control, standards etc are gonna be
up to big weed companies as every
other business)
- but mainly the
lack of exactly what they intend.
I hate the fact that it doesn’t allow more people to come in and compete. I don’t like that they are lumping in medical facilities with rec facilities.
Weed smokers are notorious procrastinators
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Yep. Best case scenario really. My fear was that 2 would pass and weed would be dead. A better attempt can be made now.
Should that really even be the question? Fairness isn't what matters. The question should be, "is it good for society?" Not "is it better than alcohol?"
We don't need that pot smoker logic around here
Its really a simple ? What substances are the most dangerous?
Prohibition isnt good for society. The things that are caused by mj and drug Prohibition are far worse than the drugs themselves. The list is long.
It would be best if no one smoked drank or ate at McDonald's. But we do.
I grew up in Nevada where It’s been legal for years.
The questions should be whether the law will stop use of it and whether the drug can cause substantial immediate bodily harm when used responsibly, and with weed, the answer to both is no. Legalize it, take the tax revenue, put It into education and the economy.
I'm not convinced if it's good or bad and see the argument for both. I definitely lean towards personal freedom but also think the narrative that weed doesn't hurt anyone other than the user or even that it doesn't hurt the user is ludicrous. So I'm undecided and didn't vote for or against.
All I was saying was comparing it to something else doesn't really make any sense
I don’t really care one way or the other but the only revenue it can generate is if out of state money comes in. It’s not coming from Oklahoma that is for sure. Casinos are the same. It doesn’t create money. Go look at Tunica 20 years later, no money came in to that community it appears. Light up stay home and smile.
Mississippi has a lot more four lane highways than we do. They built a lot of them during the casino boom.
Its really a simple ? What substances are the most dangerous?
Prohibition isnt good for society. The things that are caused by mj and drug Prohibition are far worse than the drugs themselves. The list is long.
It would be best if no one smoked drank or ate at McDonald's. But we do.
When alcohol Prohibition ended there were a bunch of feds about to be unemployed. So the take something that had been around for hundreds of years and make it illegal so they could stay employed. I
Explain to me how using mj responsibility hurts anyone if its legal.
Specific examples please.
MJ has taken the motivation of a lot of people and caused them to underachieve. I could give you names of people I know personally, but that wouldn't matter. We all know people who fall into that category.
That being said, I'm a firm believer in letting people do what they want, provided they aren't harming anyone else in the process, and provided that they have to live with the results of their bad decisions without me or anyone else bailing them out. Smoke (or drink) to your heart's content, but don't ask me to send you money to pay your living expenses through tax dollars.
Lazy people smoking weed does not change if you take it out the equations.
If Simply saying mj causes people to underachieve is your only reason to support prohibition than you are making my point.
I don't support prohibition. You asked for examples. I provided a big one.
The downsides from keeping weed illegal far outweigh the negatives to society as whole from legalization. But it bothers me when hardcore advocates act as if MJ is a miracle cure for everything with no negative effects.
BS! In a free country, not the government, or anybody else, should have the right to tell an adult what they can and cannot do to themselves. Women can get abortions based on the fact that the government agrees it's their bodies, and the women themselves should be the ones to make all decisions effecting same. But I can't legally smoke a joint? Why do women have rights that I don't have? We all know the answer to that, and it has nothing to do with freedom of choice.
Gotcha. Been a daily smoker for 35 yrs and i get up go to work and come home and mow just like everyone. Only reason i dont smoke more is because it makes me want to eat 24/7.
If someone is lazy and unproductive its rarely caused by just weed. Weed dont make people loosers.
This! I know I am a little late to the discussion but I was on a #leafpeeping tour in New England a couple of weeks ago and the smell was awful. Seems the cheapest skunkweed out there is the preferred one. It was everywhere.
I actually might have, but basing my freedoms on what's good for "society" just riles my ass. Sounded like the Russians telling their citizens that everything they have actually belongs to the state, and everything they do is for the good of the state, and personal freedom is nonexistent. Sounding more like America every day.
Well since legalizing in Co there has been a huge increase in:
Minors smoking
Deaths while high(mostly driving)
Accidents involving people who have smoked(killing other people)
Adult usage
I'm sure the list goes on of negatives. Also, people underachieving is a big deal. People are societies greatest resource and more things that turn people into drains instead of contributors is definitely an issue. Not to mention the cultural impact it has by those negative influences impacting the next generation.
I'd say on the whole it's garbage, however I'm a fan of letting people make their own mistakes and try to be humble enough to understand I am wrong plenty so that's my conflict. But anyone that thinks it is "simple" clearly is biased or hasn't thought it through
Kinda like going into a bar and smelling alcohol or cigarettes on every ones breath and clothes. Yep, alcohol should be illegal as well as cigarettes, I can't stand the smell of either. And don't get me started on cabbage cooking, or my wifes home permanent solution, both should be illegal for the smell alone.
A lot of people do that and are fine. Hell, there are people who regularly use cocaine, pills, and probably even harder addictive drugs who are functional and even successful in their chosen fields.
I agree that most fückups have a tendency towards doing it anyway, and weed is likely just the path they chose to get there.
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If you watch the video I posted on page 1, he talks about the rate of fatal car crashes increasing bc of weed a little around the 20:15 mark.
Agreed but I think this goes for people even without partaking in smoking or drinking. Just don’t be a bum. I agree that some folks probably don’t live up to their potential bc they like the chronic but same can be said about anything anyone indulges in. Too much of anything is never good unless it’s greenwood. I just think two things will be a huge benefit. It really does help some folks with extreme cases of mental irregularities (using irregularities bc of all the mental health stereotypes when it could be as easy as extreme OCD or ADHD) and also just tax the hell out of it. Use it as a driver/enabler to help with some of this economic crisis we’re in the middle of, why not. Glad #2 failed as many have said, so maybe a solid option will be brought forth next time.
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