To your first point, my approach to these vaccines was to "wait and see" due to the expedient nature of their implementation, immunity from liability, FDA status, and the overwhelming political narrative associated with them. While serving in the military, I took probably every vaccination they could give due to working on several different continents. I had a bad reaction to the small pox vaccine and developed a pretty serious staff infection as a result. As for the rest of them, so far so good. I am not antivax.
If the government/citizens truly cared, they would be acknowledging the fact that 78% of COVID hospitalizations were overweight or obese in 2020 and emphasize that personal health was keeping the hospitals overwhelmed. Due to the politically correct society that we now live in, this fact is left out of the conversation at the national level. Instead, we are told this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated instead of those who do not take care of themselves.If this hullabaloo is about keeping people alive....I am still waiting for the government to enforce other things that will make people live longer.
Everyone will die....but the public is more afraid of dying with the China virus than other things that shorten a life span.
Politicians attempting to tackle obesity in various ways has not been celebrated by my side (R). See Michelle Obama and Mike Bloomberg.
I absolutely agree. Freedom is freedom. I did not make this post to curtail the personal choices of each individual. Just look at some of the responses since the vaccinations rolled out and who a large portion of society is blaming. We, the unvaccinated, have been shamed to the point that our lives are expendable and that we should not receive medical care, all while negating the fact that it is the unhealthy who are the most hospitalized.
Good point Hawg Chief, it has been my experience that every time big government takes over an industry, any industry, things will get much worse in a hurry. The possible exception is the military but just look at what has happened to that also. If you believe that universal healthcare is a panacea, look at the VA. I don’t know if the people calling for this are stupid or just ignorant but it is certainly shortsighted and damaging.
I pointed this out in one of my class discussions about universal healthcare, recently. I explained my own personal accounts with using the VA (it is my only source of health insurance) and what the quality of care has been for me. Classmates were quick to minimize my experiences and explain to me what "should" be done to fix the existing problems. It is quite amusing hearing people in their 20's who have never held a real job in their lives tell me how they would fix a system as large as the VA. It is a complex problem that needs attention, that I agree with.
Can tell you maw maw Ivey ain’t having it.. she like nope totally up to you too f you want the vaccine
You better not.
If he goes the federal route he’s in the 9th circuit (if he files in Washington state) which isn’t likely to rule in his favor if I was to guess but you never know, this will probably drag out for a while
I’m sure you’re right. I have no idea how the appeals process work, but I assume the lawyer is aware of just what you’re saying and preparing for that.
They are all just guessing and have been for the past 18 months. It's a novel virus so guesses are all they have.
This may be one of the cases that potentially reaches the supreme court eventually, but even if it does there likely wouldn’t be a ruling until next summer at the earliest with a more realistic decision in spring/summer of 2023 unless they were to move this case up in the docket if it gets granted cert.
I’m sure you’re referencing the Indiana decision; however, if the state decided to either a) disregard their initial “leniencies” I.e., wear a mask, get tested, be tracked and you’re good or b) if they did say, “we don’t care if you’re given an exemption, we’re still firing you.”
You appear to have the facts of the case well known. Can you share them with the rest of the group? TIA!
For starters he can't sue yet. There are several steps he must take prior to that including an internal appeal and a mediation process.
The religious exemption being denied seems as if it would be a sticking point for a government entity.
Read the image from the tweet. He's basically saying the school was more strict than the requirements and discredited any attempt for an exemption.
The state and university trustees would likely be on the suit, this will probably take a while before it gets close to the court with all the lower courts and litigation that have to occur.
Agree. I hope nobody can keep their job if they don't do what Buyden orders them to do
Nothing says unity & democracy like complete totalitarianism.
You do realize that vaccinated people can and are spreading the virus?
