His insistence (don't think this is the right word) on talking about prior run-ins with LEO at other protests speaks to the validity of the claim Trump made, which, he didn't come up with as I saw this same story on tMB.
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It matters in the sense that it shows he's probably a "professional" agitator/protestor...not in the sense that he's getting paid, but that it's a lifelong pursuit. Which may mean that he knows how to goad police into arresting him or responding violently. A real master baiter, if you will.
None of that justifies him being shoved down by police, but it could mean that he's less of an innocent victim than we first thought. It doesn't appear that police just picked out a random eauxld to shove down out of the blue at the very least, which is how the media has portrayed the situation.
Trump is a moron, so I don’t doubt that he didn’t come up with this on his own. I also wouldn’t encourage using tMB as a source of anything.
Old man showing up at a protest doesn’t suddenly make him antifa, whether he wanted or planned to get arrested or not.
The sudden screaming about antifa in every corner sounds like McCarthyism. It’s no better than the last four years screaming about Russia.
I'm not saying antifa specifically, but it's hard to look at the video, and then the guy's blog, and think he's just the most unlucky protester ever.
If you are getting arrested at every protest you definitely have a problem.
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Civil rights protests always have what people who dislike the protests call “professional agitators.” Protestors in Mississippi were called exactly that in the 1960s. It’s meant to undermine their credibility, so you’ll have to excuse my skepticism. He does have a long track record of being present at protests. Dedication to an ideology or a cause isn’t always nefarious.
Screaming about a scam your morons in Congress and FBI made up Russia Russia Russia.
Antifa is a problem but now protest are slowing down your morons will start doing mass testing again to keep the economy in the blue states down.
Dude was being an instigator. No doubt about it.
He definitely reached towards the officer's belt which will always get you a harsh response regardless of age. He was aware of the same.
He definitely reached towards the officer's belt which will always get you a harsh response regardless of age. He was aware of the same.
I’m not a Democrat. Try not being one more gullible old person on the internet.
And why can't the Blue states like Minnesota that has been Democratically ran since 1931 fix that problem in it's own state they have had plenty of time , but now they have all the answers.
I would agree in cases where the protests are related to each other. If he's been out there protesting racial injustice since the 50s or 60s then what you're saying is relevant. If he's protested everything from the moon landing to climate change, from the Vietnam war to BLM, it's highly possible that he just enjoys the thrill of fighting "the man." There's nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't give him any moral high ground. It probably just means he enjoys protesting the way I love flying or @hawgclucker enjoys boating with lipstick lesbians...a way to enjoy leisure time.
By the way, I haven't done some deep dive into this guy's arrest history. Just pointing out that the truth is likely somewhere in the middle, between innocent victim and total anarchist.
I'm definitely for putting more youth programs in every city .
And do away with charging youths to play sports .
Find ways to get kids back and forth to practice.
I was President over Foley Sports for 12 years and know for a fact we need help with our youth programs.
Sure we have bad cops but we also have great cops but defunding our police is not the answer we just need the right police that can work with inner city programs
And do away with charging youths to play sports .
Find ways to get kids back and forth to practice.
I was President over Foley Sports for 12 years and know for a fact we need help with our youth programs.
Sure we have bad cops but we also have great cops but defunding our police is not the answer we just need the right police that can work with inner city programs
I haven’t done a deep dive either. But your last sentence is the point. Being a protestor doesn’t make him antifa as the tweet that started this conversation suggests. Going to that extreme is irresponsible.
I would start with getting rid of the Democratic
Governor
Mayor
Chief of police
Hell this has been happening under years and years of Democrat leadership and they are not caring about inner city youths.
Look at how many Black Americans are killing each other in all these Big cities but no one cares until it's a cop.
And not just blue states every state needs to spend more money on youth facilities especially in areas that are low income.
Get are police to have small departments in these areas and interact with the youth and the families.
If Minnesota is going to be a Democratic state just find the good Democratic leaders to run it.
Plenty of good Americans
Two people killing each other is not the same as a cop murdering an innocent person on the streets. I don’t think anyone sensible applauds murder regardless, and it’s no secret that inner cities in all states have serious issues. Some of which can’t be solved regardless of the money thrown at it.
As for having police forces that are smaller and / or more community based, that appears to be what a lot of people saying “defund the police” are talking about. I’ve been trying to understand that demand.
I posted yesterday an article about Camden, New Jersey’s defunding of police in 2012. They disbanded their local police force— it had a bad record of abuse — and created a new force with the county. The new force is actually double in size, but it focuses on “non-crisis” interactions in the community, like hanging out with the youth and just walking around the neighborhoods to talk to people and build trust. It also has clear guidelines for acceptable force (something a lot of police forces are being criticized for right now) and every office is obligated to police their partner regardless of rank — they must intervene when the other one is abusing power.
People are also asking for better specialization among police. Someone called our current model “social workers with a gun.” Police are called into situations where they aren’t really qualified to be — drug abuse, domestic abuse — where their training is really only to make an arrest. For the frontline officer, that might be the best decision. But once the person is in custody do we rehab them, send them to therapy, or send them to jail? The first two might solve more issues than the last one.
So, from the way I understand it to this point, defund the police is a call to defund the current model and start over with lessons learned. One that focuses on community relationships and de-escalation.
Some, like Patrisse Cullors, a co-founder of the Black Lives Matter movement, said they eventually want to see police forces abolished entirely. Meanwhile, she would like to see at least some funding shifted from police departments toward organizations that support marginalized communities.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/calls-...wake-of-protests-11591663621?mod=hp_lead_pos1
https://www.foxnews.com/us/chicago-saw-its-deadliest-day-in-60-years-with-18-murders-in-24-hours-report
Chicago sees its deadliest day in 60 years with 18 murders in 24 hours: report
Seems like a great idea to abolish the police force to me... WTF??????
https://www.wsj.com/articles/calls-...wake-of-protests-11591663621?mod=hp_lead_pos1
https://www.foxnews.com/us/chicago-saw-its-deadliest-day-in-60-years-with-18-murders-in-24-hours-report
Chicago sees its deadliest day in 60 years with 18 murders in 24 hours: report
Seems like a great idea to abolish the police force to me... WTF??????
While I can definitely see this to a point, I've been on many "ride-alongs" with my buddy who was a cop and alot of the calls were domestic abuse and in ALOT of those call one spouse (typically the man) was yielding a knife, hatchet, or firearm. If I were a social worker, there is NO WAY in hell I would be willing to step into that highly energized situation with only a pamphlet on how to have a better marriage.
No. Definitely not. Policing police or reorganizing police isn’t a simple task simply because you get the psychopath with the sling blade. And we aren’t short on psychopaths.
I absolutely believe the vast majority of police are good people that are answering a personal calling. Another thing the defund movement is calling for — I wish they would come up with a better name — is a national public access database to see police abuse complaints. That may help weed out the Chauvins of the world.
Yes sir! Just like there are a lot of good peaceful protesters who get drowned out by the DA hooligans, the same is true with all the good cops who get stereotyped and unfortunately some killed because the Chauvins of the world.
I'm telling you, I had dinner with 3 cops this past weekend who are on the front lines decked in riot gear everyday. They are covered in bruises and lumps from getting concrete filled water bottles, bricks, etc being thrown at them. And the worst part that a lot of people don't think about in all this are the children of the officers. They were telling me what their kids are saying and asking and it is heartbreaking!!!
Ive got several police in my family. My aunt is retired sheriff in San Diego. Two uncles (both former now technically, but whatever — I didn’t divorce them) that are SDPD. And then a cousin that is Hot Springs PD. I understand the risk they take. It’s not for me.
I’ve not met him yet. I couldn’t make the wedding. But my cousin is an attorney in Minneapolis and married an officer there. He’s been in the middle of it. My cousin isn’t active on social media, but my aunt has had some terrible posts about his experiences. First night he came home with bruises from bricks. Waiting around for your spouse to come home — hopefully — while watching these things on TV is something I wouldn’t want to experience.
That was a different aunt. I should probably explain that.
I was four years old. My aunt was breast feeding my cousin. I was maybe 5 feet away and asked “how does the milk come out?” She removed her nipple from my cousins mouth and shot it at me.
Thanks for remembering.
One of the worst things to come out of this is the cyberbullying being done to high school and college kids by BLM and other SJW's. They threaten to publicly smear them as being racist if they don't go to the protests or don't publicly stand with them or don't display a black square on Insta or fail to acknowledge the dumb ideology of White Privilege. Also do it if they stay silent. Apparently staying silent is now seen as an act of aggression against their ideology.
Like forced brownshirts......
Like forced brownshirts......
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There’s no shortage of dumbasses. Now they have to justify the stupid decision to lockdown everyone in the first place. Jus libs doing lib shit
Or maybe they are just keeping up to date with a virus that is still out there lol. The post I quoted was the exact opposite of justification BTW.
It sucks about as bad as supporting Hog Football the past three years.
Everyone is a badass behind a keyboard!!!!!!!
Then when you do try to express your feelings (ala Drew Brees), you get a public flogging too. We are living in some F'ed times where law, order, respect, and common sense is demonized!
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