He went for over 1,000 after the Heisman was awarded. Cam had 1,400 rushing yards and 50 total TDs before the Heisman was handed out
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So in your mind Bush's stats are LESS impressive BECAUSE he shared touches with a 1300 yard back with 26 TDs? Hell Dmac and Felix never did that
We heard you say he needs to be more professional. What we didn't hear is what that means to you and how he can become more professional. I don't think you even know, or that it has something to do with him being a confident cocky black dude. Hard to be sure
Last line is on point. If Mallett was as professional as cam he would be great
Bro I'm just dying to know what you mean by professional. Because I used to agree, but cam is a very changed man and the things I used to not like about him no longer apply. I think I am perfectly capable of understanding what you mean if you will explain it
You act like he was scoring on white and bush. He was playing against a suspect defense that was not ranked in the top 50 of any statistical category. Use your brain
Don't mind me man, I'm just here for the gangbang.
You've had no problem continuously explaining lots of other things in this thread and getting into it with him about other stuff. Not sure why the whole point of your criticism is something you just can't bring yourself to discuss
Lots going on in this thread. Here goes:
@Treeclimber2 if you won't explain cams lack of professionalism to wife beater, will you explain it to me? I feel like his professionalism is one of his strongest assets.
Vince Young is one of my favorite college players of all time. That championship game is my favorite non-Hog game of all time, and he was an absolute Hero. With that said, Bush is an all-time RB and the numbers back that up. He was completely out of control. I do prefer Vince in college to Cam, just a historical gamer who willed his team to that championship, but Cam had grown into such a great player and person. So in college give me Vince, but you'll be hard pressed to find a bigger cam fan than me now that he's a couple years out of auburn.
@Treeclimber2 if you won't explain cams lack of professionalism to wife beater, will you explain it to me? I feel like his professionalism is one of his strongest assets.
Vince Young is one of my favorite college players of all time. That championship game is my favorite non-Hog game of all time, and he was an absolute Hero. With that said, Bush is an all-time RB and the numbers back that up. He was completely out of control. I do prefer Vince in college to Cam, just a historical gamer who willed his team to that championship, but Cam had grown into such a great player and person. So in college give me Vince, but you'll be hard pressed to find a bigger cam fan than me now that he's a couple years out of auburn.
If we have to explain your biased hatred, you'll never understand
And I actually mean that
Disagree with that premise about the bruiser completely, and calling bush a scat back is silly, though I also don't see how having lendale in on the goal line takes anything away from bush. If you don't think bush is an all-time great RB then you are biased against him. There isn't anything else to that.
Watch Russell Wilson interact with his own team AND the opposing team... Professional in every sense of the word. I can name a few younger players that know how it's done.
I assume you think it has something to do with the color of his skin?? Not even close man.
I mean Russell Wilson is a great dude. No doubt. He is calm and collected and not as emotional as cam. He is respectful of the other team
Cam does all that too. He pumps up his teammate's and doesn't hop in the other team's face. He does his dance but I couldn't care less about that.
I used to hate cam too, but I'm open minded and objective enough to recognize personal growth when I see it. You better be thankful people aren't holding your 21 year old reputation against you for the rest of your life. I know I am
Okay that's good. I mean I don't care to list everything that you DONT mean by that. Would just be easier with some specifics. Is it Russell wilson's espoused Christianity? cause cam thanks god too. Is it Wilson saving himself for marriage?
Btw I thought it was hilarious when Carolina trolled Wilson by playing all Future music during warm ups
For those that don't know why, it's because wilson's girlfriend has a baby with Future, and cam is a big Future fan and has taken pics with him before games. Just a hilarious troll
For those that don't know why, it's because wilson's girlfriend has a baby with Future, and cam is a big Future fan and has taken pics with him before games. Just a hilarious troll
That's a decent example.
I can name rookies that have more professionalism than Cam Newton. Ray Lewis was one of the most emotional, outspoken guys of this era, but he was a true pro. Respectful to all, but played his heart out for his team. Other than his entry dance, that guy never made it a point to draw attention to HIM. It was about the Baltimore Ravens, and that's it.
Amari Cooper is a rookie, and he's gonna be a damn good one. He goes about his business like he's been there for 10+ years. Derek Carr is the same way.
The examples are endless really
Dez Bryant has alot to learn about being a pro. AJ Green does not.
There's nothing wrong with being a fierce competitor that loves the game, but when it crosses the line of respect, it's unprofessional.
Trust me, Cam isn't the only one that had things to learn.
Lol, Ray Lewis killed a guy man. Just stop. You're not going to win this one.
No, he didn't. He was present when a guy got stabbed in a fight.
I would never expect either of you to grasp the idea of being respectful, and that's the sole reason that I'm not trying to have this conversation with either of you. I might as well try to chew through a concrete slab.
He was with the guys that stabbed a guy during a fight that RL was in. And Cam celebrated a TD. Got it!
Yeah that's it. Cause Cam celebrated a touchdown... And you're not closed minded...
dude I completely disagree on ray lewis. I agree that he was a professional and grew into a great man, but I don't think he was those things until he grew up after entering the league. I love Ray Lewis because of his passion for the game and everything he does in life, but he says himself that until he went to prison, he was not a good person. He has said that prison changed him for the better and just woke him up and got him to act right, and then he BECAME a better man, and someone who I truly respect and admire. But the dude was accused of murder. I don't believe he did it, but it's not like he was squeaky clean either, and he TOTALLY drew tons of attention to himself with that entire dance (how is that not drawing attention to yourself?). He was PASSIONATE about the game, and was unashamed to show it. But I love him for that! He turned his life around and became a truly great person AND a first ballot hall of famer, and was an outspoken and passionate motivator of teammates and a relentless worker at his craft. Cam is on that very same path right now. I don't know how people can't see that.
I mean of all people if you like Ray Lewis I can't imagine why you don't like Cam for those reasons
He was an accessory. He was there, lied about it, covered it up went to jail breifly and got away with murder because of his millions. But hey keep fighting the good fight man.
I think you have a weird idea of what respect is. How does Cam disrespect people? I mean Cam isn't the guy who was playing Future over the loud speaker.
After the game yesterday, a reporter asked Cam immediately postgame if he was excited to play who they were playing in the SB and he said he actually didn't know who won yet. I love hearing that! That's what I want to hear from the leader of a team. He was 100% dialed into winning and dominating his game and wasn't concerned about the other. Then the reporter asked him if he wanted to beat Peyton Manning and he said He didn't want to make it personal but he wanted to win the SB.
I mean what do you want him to say and do? There were opportunities to say things potentially inflammatory or immature, but he stuck those questions with exactly what I would expect a professional to say
Two guys died. Two. Ray Lewis clothes were never found either. He threw them away. Why?
Ray Lewis got a second chance and made the most of it. He straightened out and I respect anyone who does that
I dont. At all. You don't murder people and walk the streets a free man and earn my respect.
I mean but if he didn't murder someone, nervously didn't admit everything he knew to cover up for a dangerous guy that he knew he needed to get away from, but then did the time he was sentenced and turned his life around afterwards, does it not sort of help? I mean what else is our "Correctional" facility for if not to correct the bad habits and choices of the inmates who serve sentences there?
I also say all this believing that he didn't actually kill someone. My opinion would be different if he actually killed a guy. I mean not actually killing someone isn't as bad as actually killing someone (unless you put a hit on someone).
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I mean this is about respect and professionalism, right? We're saying that if , for example, Mallett was as professional as Cam Newton, he would be great. Mallett would also be great if he was as professional as Russel Wilson. He has as much to do with this conversation as Russell Wilson does
The coaches are the ones that limit the players access to television in those situations. I couldn't care less about what someone says. I watch what they do. Like I said, watch a guy like Russell Wilson and how he carries himself throughout the course of a game, then make an honest comparison...
I should've tagged minnesotahog, cause he was the one that brought up Ryan Mallett, and I know why he did it.
I mean do they have to be the exact same kind of person to be professional? I agree they carry themselves differently. Just don't understand why there can't be more than one way to skin a cat in this regard.
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