There's never an acceptable situation to use this word, and there's nothing redeeming about the word itself - in any connotation.
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There's never an acceptable situation to use this word, and there's nothing redeeming about the word itself - in any connotation.
So if the guy at Lowes said " some people might call it redneck engineering" would that be racist? its a freaking phrase for something not done to the exact specifications but still gets the job done. People need to lighten up. Its about intent. was he intentionally downing black people as a whole? I seriously doubt it.
I have been discriminated against as a teen only I was the dirty Fvckin hippie. One Fourth of July in Piggott, AR some friends and I were approached by good citizens drawing knife and offering haircuts. We laughed later but at the time I had a legitimate concern for our safety. There have been several others.
You can't be serious comparing the n-word to redneck???? I feel like I'm in the twilight zone. Maybe I should sit this thread out.
6 messages in 5 years? I'm hoping you maintain that average rather than share comments like this on a regular basis.
I've had my receipt checked a few times, more so when I was a teenager/early 20's. I'm 39 now and it hasn't happened much if at all as I've gotten a little older. Just chalked it up as I probably looked like I was up to no good when I was younger. White by the way.
Yeah, it's pretty easy to spot the people who absolutely don't get it ITT. Exactly the type of people that Danny is talking about, the ones who are worthless in helping our society move forward in regards to this issue. But, with the ignorance I witness on a daily basis, I can sadly say that it doesn't surprise me anymore.
Robinson's tweet isn't making the whole state look bad. What makes the state look bad is the ignorant, hateful, bigoted people that live there. There are many, many great people that are from Arkansas and I'm proud to call it home, but there are also many people that aren't so great. The bad are in the minority but they are a vocal minority and that is what most people focus on. The national perception of our state is extremely negative and I'm reminded why on an almost daily basis when I log on to this message board. There are an alarming number of flat out bigots on this board/in our fan base.
Yeah...I imagine we've all been profiled or discriminated against in one form or another. The one thing we all have in common is that it doesn't feel good when it happens.
It does mark the first time I've heard anyone make the case for "redneck" to be considered a race.
Gb asks how blacks using the term is relevant. Really? Practically this whole thread is about using the slang term for negro and how much it hurts, embarrasses, or pisses off black folks, but when someone mentions the fact that those same black folks call each other that all the time it's not relevant. If that term is so hated by blacks why is it they not only use it all the time, but even use it when addressing their friends. Seems Its only a racist term if someone who isn't black uses it. I hate the word, but to act like it doesn't exist because you don't like it is ridiculous. Like calling it the "N" word Will make the politically incorrect term disappear.
I was born and raised in NEA and heard that saying a million times. I don't see the big deal.
I have been asked to show a receipt at walmart many times. I have never once stopped and provided it. Once I have paid, those items are mine. No one is going to search through them to check.
I just politely state, that I don't consent to being detained or searched and continue walking. Not one time has there ever been anything more than that done. The attendant once said "I have to its policy." I replied"Good thing I am not employed here and subject to your policy." Works everytime! Walmart has enough cameras and anti theft technology, that if they really thought I was stealing, then they would have evidence and way more people stopping me. Not a 70 yo attendant.
I just politely state, that I don't consent to being detained or searched and continue walking. Not one time has there ever been anything more than that done. The attendant once said "I have to its policy." I replied"Good thing I am not employed here and subject to your policy." Works everytime! Walmart has enough cameras and anti theft technology, that if they really thought I was stealing, then they would have evidence and way more people stopping me. Not a 70 yo attendant.
This my experience also.
So he gets stopped and assumes racism. Who is the racist? I probably crossed a line but I think it is a legit question. My next sentence is I have not experience all that he has so my response could be different if I had. Assumptions get us all in trouble.
Personally, I've noticed a big decline in black people/African Americans using the "n word" towards each other in the past decade or two. Maybe it's due to me getting older and hanging around older people, but I don't notice it nearly as much.
Still trying to figure out how it's relevant in a thread about JoJo sending out a tweet that he felt he experienced some form of racism at Wal Mart...
Incidentally, I don't watch Twitter except right around NSD, so I'm not an expert on whether this is way out of line or out of character for a 19 year old black college kid to tweet. But I will say if he had used the hashtag #BlameJameis I would think it was pretty damn funny.
I will also add that I don't mind Arabs being scrutinized closer than others at airports. Does that make me a racist?
The entire problem right now is that people itt are assuming it was because he was asked to show his receipt upon leaving. Unless there is something I'm unaware of there's zero proof that's what happened.
It's funny that "he's assuming racism" when people are assuming they know what happened at the Walmart.
I don't know if it makes you a racist or not. But it definitely makes you really bad at airline security, or profiling, or both. I am assuming you want to scrutinize Arabs to catch Islamic militants. Setting aside the fact that not all Muslims are militants, you should know that 80% of the Muslim world is non-Arab. Iran: not Arab. Pakistan: not Arab. Turkey: not Arab. Indonesia: not Arab. In fact you'll find more Arabs living in Brazil than you will find in Iran, Pakistan, Turkey, and Indonesia combined. Let's also include 180 million Muslims in India (non Arab), 145 million in Bangladesh, another 75 million in Nigeria - you know those guys who take hostages on oil rigs and the home of Boku Haram - not Arab.
Oh, and Afghanistan: not Arab.
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I would imagine this is more age profiling than race. I am white and remember being watched closely when I was a teenager in places of business. Particularly if I was in a group. And chances are, in most cases, they were right to do so. The simple fact is, profiling, whether racial, gender or age based is an effective tactic in the long run. If I am trying to catch fish, it would be a waste of time to fish in the desert. If my job is to catch a thief, and statistics show that people under the age of 21 are more likely to steal, that is the group I am focusing on. It may be offensive to some, but it is what it is.
Well say it to a black man and see if you think its a big deal then!
Yeah, because all those bombers and hijackers we see on TV are all a bunch of white dudes
I have before. NEA is a different animal I guess. Everyone says it.
I don't live there anymore. You couldn't pay me enough money to live there haha
No this was not in any way taken out of context. The conversation was not about Black History month. It was about ending racism in America and he thought their were people in the black community benefited from racism and wanted to keep it stirred up. What he meant was exactly what he said.
Yeah, because all those bombers and hijackers we see on TV are all a bunch of white dudes
Cute. But actually, Arabs are classified as "white" by the US Census bureau and have been for a long time.
ftp://ftp.fcc.gov/pub/Bureaus/OSEC/library/legislative_histories/1195.pdf
e. White. A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, North Africa, or the Middle East
im not compairing the two as equals. Im simply suggesting that his intent wasn't to harm anyone by saying what he said. Im simply saying that it is an extremely common phrase used by men his age in this region of the country. You don't know him from adam. For all you know he has a black wife. im saying you cant judge a man a racist by one off color comment made in a hardware store to one person. Racism is a much deeper and more complicated issue than one comment
What does the amount of times Ive post have to do with anything? Trust me ive seen plenty of your comments. Talking like you work for the site or have some great enlighted insight that only someone who posts a million times on message boards could attain. Get over yourself man. The point is his intent.
I was at the LR police department last year to get my car inspected for a registration change. While I was waiting for the desk officer to finish checking my DL#, two black kids came in speaking to another officer (who was black) about there mother, who o guess was abusive, can't really remember. The kids were dressed well and respectful, though some might have found there speech patterns less than grammatically impeccable.
This is all going on behind me and as the white desk officer comes back to hand me my stuff he leans into me and says something to the effect of, "this is what it's like all day here, parade of zoo animals." Like we were part of some inside joke.
I just sat there with a blank look on my face, but I felt pretty dirty for a couple of months. Here are a couple of kids trying to get some help through the proper channels and this is how some see them, pretty disgusting. Same thought as you Danny, felt like I should have said something but it was just me and him, no witnesses... Then I end up on the shit list of every racist cop in little rock.
Me neither. I'm at Walmart all the time (Fayetteville) and in 20 years here...never asked to see receipt. I've never even seen anyone unless the alarm goes off.
I'm just a fan having some fun, and have no desire to work for the site; but thanks for taking the time to read my "great enlighted (shouldn't that be 'enlightened?') insight" anyhow. It seems to have resonated with you on some level.
As for Intent - it's implied by the use of the word.
I guess its a good thing the that neither you nor the Census Bureau is involved with the Department of Homeland Security then.
This country can not afford to have its safety compromised for the sake of white guilt.
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I guess its a good thing the Census Bureau is not looking for terrorists then.
I'd say it a little differently. It's a good thing security agencies try to use information (i.e. travel history) and some psychology-based observation techniques (i.e. asking questions and looking for specific physiological responses) rather than just saying "Just like yesterday: scrutinize Arabs today, boys." Because if you read my post, scrutinizing Arabs leaves a big chunk of potential bad guys out of the picture.
JoJo definitely Not A Team Player, All About Himself. HISTORY, Sooner than later I hope.
Now that I've thought about it why would anybody argue over something that Jo Jo says. Ive realized after reading some of his tweets and thinking about how he has been in the doghouse with the coaches pretty much every since he's been here that anything that comes out of that kids mouth has ZERO credibility!!! That also
Brings me back to when CBB said " what do you do when a little kid won't listen you call his momma" That might not be the exact quote but it is similar and I'm pretty sure he was talking about Jo Jo.
Brings me back to when CBB said " what do you do when a little kid won't listen you call his momma" That might not be the exact quote but it is similar and I'm pretty sure he was talking about Jo Jo.
If they kept him from leaving for a while then I see the grief, but I've been interrogated by attendants at the door about stuff in my cart for several minutes before
The thing about people who think it's them against the world, is eventually they force the world to be against them. Hope this isn't the case with Jojo but dang I'm getting tired of the drama
The biggest issue is that he tweeted it out to the world...and there's really little context in which to judge the situation. Maybe he was racially profiled...or maybe he wasn't. I just wish he would handle the situation with a little more maturity. No need to hurt us in recruiting or hurt the state of Arkansas by tweeting something like that.
I am a 45 yo white male dress above average, always clean cut and have been stopped at the door of Walmart a lot of times. I have no idea what happened in this situation it could have been much worse than a reciept check for all I know. I also know I have an opinion of Jojo from what I have seen out of him.
