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This type of stuff kills me, so you can't be white to know what discrimination is.
When one has experienced prejudiced decisions against their being, the concern that they're being singled out for what they are naturally increases. As a white, Christian male in America. ..it's not happened to me once. I know if any of those adjectives I just used for myself didn't apply, I surely would have experienced some sorta prejudice...and I probably would've put it on twitter or FB.
Also, why does Walmart have this policy? They're not an airport.
Based on what, your opinion? If the dude is experiencing racism and I don't know if he is or isn't then what can the coach say about him speaking about it? Johnathan Williams wasn't suspended for Ferguson comments and that wasn't even directly affecting him. Bottom line is this is your opinion and most likely wrong.
Pretty long thread for nothing but speculation.
I mean, was it even confirmed that he wasn't shoplifting?
I mean, was it even confirmed that he wasn't shoplifting?
IT WAS A JOKE!!
Yes, based on my opinion that black teens are on this trend where anything that happens to them is automatically racist. Worth the same two cents as his opinion that a guy is being racist because he asked for his receipt. I'm a well dressed professional white guy and that's happened to me. Was that racist, too?
Danny, I have one question for you. If that would have been a colored man and he made a "cracker" comment, what would you have said to him?
My point is, neither would be correct. I would not use that word, even though it seems to be ok for the black community to use it among themselves. I don't really get that but that is ok, I did not grow up in that environment so I don't have to get it. If they find it offensive, then I should never use a word like that.
I realise that they find it offensive and therefore would never use a word to offend ANYONE of any sex, race, or religion. I just hate it when such a big deal is made out of things when one race says something but the other race can say whatever they want and it is ok. Neither should be allowed, but that is absolutely not the way it is in our country today. And I am absolutely NOT a racist. Some of my best friends are black and we hang out together a lot and I love them like my own family. I am just for equality for all, that's it.
So how would you classify the 911 terrorists? I think you are fooling yourself if you are trying to tell anyone, including yourself, that you would not ask a person of middle eastern look more questions than you would a person who does not look like he is from the middle east.
Danny, I think your reaction was spot on. mainly because it fit your self-described personality. I sometimes have found that I let it build up "how I should react" then I overreact. So stick with what you know in terms of appropriate reaction level.
that said, the dude sounds to me like he likely is outdated on his terms at best. Let's hope your reaction set him straight.
that said, the dude sounds to me like he likely is outdated on his terms at best. Let's hope your reaction set him straight.
Please ask your best black friends what they think about being called "colored.". seems a bit 1950ish. Better yet, ask their kids.
Well what the heck am I supposed to say? I did not mean that disrespectful at all. I honestly thought that is what black preferred to be called. What do want me to say, African American. I bet 99% of them have never even been to Africa. That would be like me expecting you to call me an Irish American. Would you do that if I preferred? I tried not to say black because I have been told that offends people. This is what is wrong with our country, you can't even talk without offending someone these days.
HendrixHog, if you are African American, black, or whatever it is called these days, would you please tell me what word I am supposed to use this generation so that I do not offend you? And when that does not suit you anymore and I am racist again, can you please let me know what you have changed it to then? This is so ridiculous.
And by the way, I asked my friend and he laughed. He takes no offense because he knows I mean no offense. He is a man (regardless of color) and a friend and he is well above this stupidity.
Guarantee you, that more white people in the state of Arkansas get shook down at Walmart, than black people do... usually white folks of the toothless variety.
I don't see how old man working at Lowes using an antiquated racial slur excuses the poor judgment used by Jojo Robinson. Yes we live in a racist society, but I've been stopped at least ten times at Wal Mart and asked to see my receipt. And I'm lilly white. Likely Jojo tweeted out of ignorance but he should know he represents the University of Arkansas. I'm sure Bielema will remind him of that.
What the old timer said at Lowe's is different. He was outright out of bounds and should have been fired had it been broght to the manager's attention. The person checking receipts was likely doing his or her job and most likely not instructed to check all black folks' receipts. My 2 cents.
What the old timer said at Lowe's is different. He was outright out of bounds and should have been fired had it been broght to the manager's attention. The person checking receipts was likely doing his or her job and most likely not instructed to check all black folks' receipts. My 2 cents.
Well I have one for you. I was at Pine Bluff Wal-mart auto center with a flat tire needing a new tire put on. I had brought the tire and rim only. I said to the guy at the counter I need a new tire, "there is the tire and rim." he rang me up for the new tire/mounting/balancing. all vehicles ahead of me were gone and my tire remained next to thier machine. I asked how much longer it will take (it had been 45 min already.) He states we will get to it in a minute. Another car pulls in and they do a 4 tire change on his car with 2 techs sharing the job. I go and ask how much longer? now 1hour and 30 minutes after I got there he said your next. I look out there and they are changing a guys oil. I finally see them grab my tire and change it and it has been well over 2 hours for my one tire off the car to be changed. and yes everyone involved was black including all the people that got serivce before I did and had gotten there after me.
oh and by the way the N word has nothing to do with being black, the definition of the word is ignorant. if someone calls you a N word it is then just the kettle calling trying to call you out. only ingnorant people treat other races and other people different.
Truth be told we live in a narsosistic society where others will do and say whatever they can to get ahead or make themselves feel better by trying to pull others down. That is also true with the ones that cry racisit at the slightest chance to say they felt discriminated against.
Truth be told we live in a narsosistic society where others will do and say whatever they can to get ahead or make themselves feel better by trying to pull others down. That is also true with the ones that cry racisit at the slightest chance to say they felt discriminated against.
When I was six my family moved to Wainwright, Alaska, a small village on the coast of the Arctic Ocean, not too far from Point Barrow. I was the only white kid in my class, and every day I was pretty well bullied.
They called me nothing but Honky and Tanak, which is a racial slur for white people among the Inupiat. Every day at recess, they ganged up on me, dog piled me, and shoved my face down in the snow. I did my best at fighting back, but it was always eight or ten of them against me. And again, i was only six. The teacher's aide was an Eskimo woman who was always the one on playground duty when this happened. She loved it. She got a lot of laughs out of watching me get best up nearly every day. She never once tried to help me.
They also had this little game the called "Harpoon the Honky." It was about a half mile walk home, but for me it was always more half mile sprint for my life. See, they his an old rusted whaling harpoon in an old ,55 gallon drum, and when the bell rang, they had their fun. They chased me the whole way home with that harpoon (more or less a spear) whooping, hollering, and laughing. I ran like Carl Lewis in a snow suit each day and dreaded the moment they actually caught me an ran me through.
Kind of funny thinking back on it. If you've been to a remote village in Alaska, you might know something about this kind of prejudice.
Prejudice and racism isn't ok. but I for one can testify that it doesn't only happen to American black people. I do empathize with them. But I also empathize with anyone who had been dedcriminated against for any reason. There are stupid people everywhere on this earth. And black, white, brown, or yellow...its hard to fix stupid.
They called me nothing but Honky and Tanak, which is a racial slur for white people among the Inupiat. Every day at recess, they ganged up on me, dog piled me, and shoved my face down in the snow. I did my best at fighting back, but it was always eight or ten of them against me. And again, i was only six. The teacher's aide was an Eskimo woman who was always the one on playground duty when this happened. She loved it. She got a lot of laughs out of watching me get best up nearly every day. She never once tried to help me.
They also had this little game the called "Harpoon the Honky." It was about a half mile walk home, but for me it was always more half mile sprint for my life. See, they his an old rusted whaling harpoon in an old ,55 gallon drum, and when the bell rang, they had their fun. They chased me the whole way home with that harpoon (more or less a spear) whooping, hollering, and laughing. I ran like Carl Lewis in a snow suit each day and dreaded the moment they actually caught me an ran me through.
Kind of funny thinking back on it. If you've been to a remote village in Alaska, you might know something about this kind of prejudice.
Prejudice and racism isn't ok. but I for one can testify that it doesn't only happen to American black people. I do empathize with them. But I also empathize with anyone who had been dedcriminated against for any reason. There are stupid people everywhere on this earth. And black, white, brown, or yellow...its hard to fix stupid.
I believe all 19 were Arab.
I think you are fooling yourself if you think an effective security profiling approach is to have some young American 20-something TSA agent try to gauge "Hmmm, does that guy look Middle Eastern? Let's look a little closer." for two reasons.
1) Most people in the US would have a very tough time picking out "Arabs" from a lineup that included other darker-skinned people. As my first post stated, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, India, and Bangladesh are all non-Arab countries with large Muslim populations and proven breeding grounds for terrorism. I'd bet you'd be unable to distinguish Arab from non-Arab purely based on look.
2) If you try to indiscriminately "scrutinize" everyone who looks a certain way, you find yourself scrutinizing so many people that you then begin scaling back how closely you scrutinize any one, and it becomes easier for someone to slip through.
A more insight-based profiling based on data and passenger history coupled with some techniques for observing passengers is way more effective than "Hey, let's ask that A-rab if he's a terrorist". Why do you think the TSA has tried to adopt some of the processes used at Ben Gurion? You think it's because the Israeli's scrutinize every Arab? No, it's because they have learned how to spot someone's mannerisms who is up to no good. They know their biggest vulnerability is a sympathetic non-Arab who thinks they can sneak through.
Once again, another person assuming he was stopped only to be asked to provide a receipt....even though we don't know that's what happened.
You honestly don't know what else to say besides "colored"?
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im going to assume from his past behavior that he probably brought the attention of whoever stopped him on himself, therefore it wasn't racial. We don't know what happened and all we have to go on is his past behavior.
Oh I stand completely corrected then. What I should have said is I don't mind the TSA scrutinizing people who look like the 911 terrorist more so than those who do not appear to look like them. All of your philosophy is great but in fact most of those who have carried out acts of terror or have been associated with planning terror in the US look similar. Therefore .... Does that make everyone who looks like that a terrorist -> NO. But that does mean I will probably ask a person who outwardly resembles what previous terrorist have looked like more closely than other where all other things are equal. Two nervous acting people come though the gate I'll probably have more questions for the "Middle Eastern" looking person. If you don't agree with that you need not apply.
Well, there ya go...a bunch of assumptions. "We don't know what happened", but we have to assume he was acting like a tool. Of course....makes perfect sense.
Actually, clay, I was just thinking that for a thread so far derailed from its original intent and mired in so many controversial topics, people are being surprisingly civil to one another, compared to previous engagements at least.
You didn't ask your friend. If you had any idea how transparent that sounded you never would have posted. Colored? Good lord, just stop.
So you have zero problem insisting that perfectly good citizens deal with extra checks, and the embarrassment of being pulled aside, just because of the way they look?
Very true statement! But it's not only the State of Arkansas; it's the entire southern area of this country that has deservedly earned the reputation of being bigoted and backward. Education and death are the only things that will change this sad reputation, and yes, I do think that it does have a very negative effect on recruiting black students to Arkansas. Oh, and if you haven't noticed, the wide majority of the best athletes in America are African American!!!
Your point about the burden on good citizens is a good one, but I'm trying to get the point across that the "looks like an Arab" profiling method is ineffective, though it apparently gives some amount of reassurance to certain people. Why do you think ISIS is off recruiting disaffected youth in Europe? To slip past Mr. Keep-Your-Eyes-Peeled-For-A-Rabs at the checkpoint. Behavior-based profiling can be effective. Plain-old ethnicity-based profiling is ineffective and inefficient.
I sure the hell don't. And if they want themselves and their families to be safe, they should not either if they have nothing to hide. I would hope they would want security to use the most effective tactic possible to identify possible threats, even if it included profiling their own age, gender or race. I am a middle aged, middle class white male and I would have no issue being profiled if the authorities were looking for a serial killer because most of them are middle aged, middle class white males.
That's not acceptable. It's not acceptable to subject our citizens to extra searches and embarrass them because of the color of their skin. We have been fighting this battle for too long. And you didn't need to tell me you were white and lower middle class, your words scream that.
I probably would be considered upper middle class by the way
I am a college educated professional but also a realist. I could care less about hurting someone's feelings if it saved their life. I will say I have probably hired and fired over the years a 100 or more individuals. At least half of those, I would say, are black. I will tell you, with a straight face, that race plays absolutely no part in my evaluation during the interview process. If a person is qualified, able and has a proven work history, they will be hired. My only point is, profiling, is an affective and necessary tactic.OK, so you are now positive that is all that happened? That someone asked for a receipt? Because last I checked, that was only speculation. And thanks for grouping black teens all in the same category, being that you have never been one. I am a well dressed professional black guy, and I can thankfully say that only rarely have I been in situations where racism has played a part in something. Very rarely but in 36 years I have definitely experienced it. You can watch the news and see perfect examples of this by the way. That way you can be more hip to the "black teen" trend.
