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Really? That’s like his best buddy. I’ll have to watch that.

Nevermind, he’s calling the Houston Police Chief a creep for saying immigrants “built this city” and saying “his people” need to continue to take a stand.
 
You're VERY wrong on that. Carlson may be conservative, but he goes after anybody he feels is wrong. He's put Trump on blast many times.

If you're actually objective at all, he's one if the better commentaries on cable news.

yeah, whoops, I was thinking of Hannity.
 
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Carlson has been the less sycophantic of the Fox Newsies as best I can tell. He’s still on the Right, but he’s no Hannity. He says things that are honest.
I’ve always liked Carlson alright. Good on him.
 
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I can’t watch Carlson without watching this clip of Jon Stewart and Carlson on Crossfire.

Crossfire was cancelled shortly after.

 
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Can Trump order up the active duty military against Americans without congressional approval?

"The original provision was enacted as Section 15 of chapter 263, of the Acts of the 2nd session of the 45th Congress.

Sec. 15. From and after the passage of this act it shall not be lawful to employ any part of the Army of the United States, as a posse comitatus, or otherwise, for the purpose of executing the laws, except in such cases and under such circumstances as such employment of said force may be expressly authorized by the Constitution or by act of Congress; and no money appropriated by this act shall be used to pay any of the expenses incurred in the employment of any troops in violation of this section and any person willfully violating the provisions of this section shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and on conviction thereof shall be punished by fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars or imprisonment not exceeding two years or by both such fine and imprisonment[9]

The text of the relevant legislation is as follows:

18 U.S.C. § 1385. Use of Army and Air Force as posse comitatus Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

Also notable is the following provision within Title 10 of the United States Code (which concerns generally the organization and regulation of the armed forces and Department of Defense):

10 U.S.C. § 275. Restriction on direct participation by military personnel The Secretary of Defense shall prescribe such regulations as may be necessary to ensure that any activity (including the provision of any equipment or facility or the assignment or detail of any personnel) under this chapter does not include or permit direct participation by a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps in a search, seizure, arrest, or other similar activity unless participation in such activity by such member is otherwise authorized by law."
Yes, he can. The Enforcement Acts.

I was sent to LA riots in 92 from Ft Ord under Enforcement Act.
 
Both legal analysts on CNN and Fox News stated the President can not deploy military to a state unless that state governor requests it.

provisions were used by Eisenhower during the Little Rock integration of students though.

CNN just had a retired LT. General who said the same.
 
Both legal analysts on CNN and Fox News stated the President can not deploy military to a state unless that state governor requests it.

provisions were used by Eisenhower during the Little Rock integration of students though.

CNN just had a retired LT. General who said the same.
There are a number of situations in which the Act does not apply. These include:

 
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There are a number of situations in which the Act does not apply. These include:


What was the opinion of you and your fellow soldiers being deployed to LA? I wasn’t old enough to even know it was happening.
 
Do you actually believe everything you see on Twitter or research what you present as fact?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/officer-jacob-pederson-protests/
I didn’t check this one beyond seeing another clip of the same guy/gas mask breaking windows of stores and a black woman attempting to dissuade him. Also saw several white men throwing things. As far as twitter goes the platform doesn’t determine the validity of the content, all of them are vulnerable to lies. However twitter is trump’s choice so you may have a point.
 
So you're saying protestors... or really, just call them looters or arsonists, i'm fine with that... are throwing bricks and setting things on fire, and you believe killing them is the correct response?

They need to take their asses home if they aren't going to peacefully protest, but threatening to kill them or sic the "Vicious Dogs' and 'Ominous Weapons'" on them isn't what a leader of the Free World should be doing.

He should either try to empathize and help fix the problem, or keep his mouth shut. Antagonizing the people of the country you're supposed to be leading isn't what a US President is supposed to do.
Wait, you think him showing some empathy is going to stop these idiots from blocking highways and torching buildings? As if the Floyd killing and the looting/destruction are connected. Pffft. Come on. These idiots looting and destroying property don't care about justice, all they'e doing is living out their suburban anarchist fantasy derived from watching The Purge and playing video games in mommy's basement.
 
What was the opinion of you and your fellow soldiers being deployed to LA? I wasn’t old enough to even know it was happening.
It was honestly surreal.

My initial reactions were:

1. After some of the weapons we gathered from raids, the citizens were better armed than we were...outside of tanks and claymores.

2. Fear, but not in the way one would think. We were under to not engage unless engaged orders. If engaged, we were allowed to defend ourselves...which usually means lethal force. My fear was happens if a child or adolescent points a fake gun at me? You can't just assume either way...

Seeing how all of that unfolded on American soil is just hard to explain. It was definitely an uncomfortable deployment.
 
Sounds like you want Trump to be weak like the Dem Governors - Just Say "Please, Please, Please, Please, Please , Please stop being thugs, thieves, arsonist, looters....Please, Please, Please, Please, Please"
Empathy is an important skill for a leader to have. If you don’t know what that word means(it is 3 syllables I’m sorry), look it up in a dictionary.
 
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Wait, you think him showing some empathy is going to stop these idiots from blocking highways and torching buildings? As if the Floyd killing and the looting/destruction are connected. Pffft. Come on. These idiots looting and destroying property don't care about justice, all they'e doing is living out their suburban anarchist fantasy derived from watching The Purge and playing video games in mommy's basement.
Yes, the words that the President of our country uses matter a lot. Showing empathy for people or threatening to send the dogs, I wonder which message comes across better?
 
She gets kudos for that? Her assistant tweeted that lmao why do words carry so much weight during times like this
Why do words matter when most major cities are having protests?

I’m not sure that’s a serious question. How do you think most leaders of developed nations handle civil unrest? With words or with the military?
 
yeah these Italians from Cleveland are some real rednecks. Try again.


Two guys defending their business the same way I would defend my home. They could vote either way (probably republican or non-voters). That's not really who I'm referring to. I'm thinking about the McMichaels of the world who are gonna see an opportunity to gun down some people.
 
Why do words matter when most major cities are having protests?

I’m not sure that’s a serious question. How do you think most legit leaders handle civil unrest? With words or with the military?
I’m not advocating for military force. How you made that assumption from my words is unclear to me. I’ll like to see the statistics on how many rioters stay home now due to the first lady’s tweet though. The famous expression “talk is cheap” is a famous expression for a reason.
 
Empathy is an important skill for a leader to have. If you don’t know what that word means(it is 3 syllables I’m sorry), look it up in a dictionary.
So You think Trump (& all of us) should have Empathy for the Thugs, Thieves, Looters, and Arsonist that are destroying US city's? They are destroying people's lives...
 
I’m not advocating for military force. How you made that assumption from my words is unclear to me. I’ll like to see the statistics on how many rioters stay home now due to the first lady’s tweet though. The famous expression “talk is cheap” is a famous expression for a reason.
Never said it would fix all the problems, but yes, putting out a positive message will do more to help the situation than what The Don has done.
 
So You think Trump (& all of us) should have Empathy for the Thugs, Thieves, Looters, and Arsonist that are destroying US city's? They are destroying people's lives...
Trump just tear gassed and shot rubber bullets at peaceful protestors on live tv outside the White House while awkwardly holding up a Bible in front of a church.

He’s not just trying to silence the looters, he’s harming innocent civilians as well.
 
Never said it would fix all the problems, but yes, putting out a positive message will do more to help the situation than what The Don has done.
It’s such a head scratching thing to me. Someone is suddenly vindicated because they type something into their phone. All I see all day every day are empty words and reposts. If I don’t put anything on twitter am I part of the problem? If that’s the case I think I’m gonna hang it up with social media.

this isn’t supposed to be aimed at you, Dicktales, I’m just getting frustrated with some of the virtue signaling I see around SM.
 
Nevermind, he’s calling the Houston Police Chief a creep for saying immigrants “built this city” and saying “his people” need to continue to take a stand.
You think he is wrong about that?
 
So You think Trump (& all of us) should have Empathy for the Thugs, Thieves, Looters, and Arsonist that are destroying US city's? They are destroying people's lives...

If you think they are only going after looters and rioters you are severely naive. That is just the words they are choosing to use in place of "all protesters".
 
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Yes, the words that the President of our country uses matter a lot. Showing empathy for people or threatening to send the dogs, I wonder which message comes across better?
You should have grown up in the 60's with all of your idealism dicktales. You would have had a blast.
 
Trump just tear gassed and shot rubber bullets at peaceful protestors on live tv outside the White House while awkwardly holding up a Bible in front of a church.

He’s not just trying to silence the looters, he’s harming innocent civilians as well.
You are making sh!t up again (3rd time today) - I watched the entire thing. Its like you want something to be true so bad that you pretend it happened.
 
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