OT 100% NOT the Official Off-Topic/Politics/Corona Thread
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Are we believing the WHO now
Depends on the situation. In this case, contract tracing data was used. Hard to argue with that.
Hard to trust the WHO, but thought this was pertinent:
So nearly half of all fatalities are from people in nursing homes or assisted living, it's very hard to spread the disease if you're asymptomatic, and the disease is anticipated to have infected approximately 20 million Americans regardless of "social distancing" measures by August.
We've really ****ed this one up, Bob.
So nearly half of all fatalities are from people in nursing homes or assisted living, it's very hard to spread the disease if you're asymptomatic, and the disease is anticipated to have infected approximately 20 million Americans regardless of "social distancing" measures by August.
We've really ****ed this one up, Bob.
Sorry, I don't. Just thought the above comments were about orange man bad.
Early on I linked a video from a Dr in NY who was trying to calm fears. He said that you get it from being in close contact to people who have it for extended amounts of time. Otherwise you were pretty darn safe. Looking at the "hotspots" at the time and the living conditions of those areas, it was clear that he was correct. But man there were some covid crazies in that thread that doubted him.
Feels good man.
And yet somehow today in Arkansas we have 314 new cases, 26 new hospitalizations, and 11 new patients on the vent. And given that a large percentage of nursing home patients have "do not resuscitate" orders, it would be hard to think that many of those 11 new ventilated patients are nursing home residents. 127 new cases are from my neck of the woods - Washington and Benton counties. If those cases aren't spreading from asymptomatic carriers, 314 people were cool hanging out w/ coughing/febrile folks I guess.
It's feel good being on the right side of history time in and time out
Oh no...11 new ventilated patients! Nobody thought this was going away and only a fool would not expect a spike from opening up. The question for me is this more than I expected from opening and the answer is no.
My mom had to get the brain swab test in Hot Springs for symptoms. Results tomorrow allegedly.
Dad's came back negative, mom is getting the antibody test today because she's having a colonoscopy Thursday
"If you don't hit the brain, the test is in vain."
I think to a degree, yes. I think some of us were really hoping that increased temps/humidity would exert more of an effect on limiting spread than they have.
Dude...you're a smart guy. This is an EXTREMELY localized issue within a singular industry. Are you insinuating that the reopening is associated with this issue?
And it very well may have. In short, it doesnt bother me at all. Of course, i wasnt bothered from the beginning so i may be a bad example
Hard to say, but also hard to ignore when the increase in cases started happening. I was just pointing out that there was a correlation which may or may not equal causation - an important fact. I mean, yes, the increase in positive cases is most noticeable in areas where the poultry industry is a major employer, but we also can't say that an easing of restrictions didn't allow things to get into those workplaces in the first place, right?
Maybe those in the poultry industry really like to have big Mother's Day (May 10) celebrations?
Anyone else a bit concerned that things spread so easily in places our food is prepared?
You know what's easy to say.
50% of all Arkansas deaths are in nursing home/correctional facilities.
Of the 76 deaths in Arkansas that aren't from the above, 73% are over 65.
So in the 90 days that data has been collected, 21 people have died under the age of 65 in Arkansas that aren't in a nursing home/correctional facility.
My assumption, if the data is anything like all the other states who have been adding in health conditions, a strong majority of those patients had underlying conditions.
This isn't the virus that has been reported. It's awful for the elderly and the susceptible. That's it. Pointing to the economy reopening and going, "YA SHOULDN'T A DONE IT!" is not smart.
And I never said that. I just pointed out that Arkansas, like many other states, has seen an increase in cases since reopening began. Maybe that's coincidental or, as many have said, expected. Fortunately, despite the big increase in cases, our healthcare facilities are holding their own unlike some other states (Arizona, specifically metro Phoenix, is struggling a bit according to some of my hospital contacts out there).
You never said it...
You just pointed to a date in which the economy was re-opened along side a graph of increase cases and said, "this is comforting to you?" All while ignoring the fact that around that exact same time all the cases came from one industry and one group of individuals. I'm sure there was no insinuation on your part that reopening was to blame and that we should feel uncomfortable by the shift in cases due to that reopening.
Ok, I would love to hear your reasoning behind why multiple states (not just Arkansas) have seen a dramatic increase in cases since mid May. This is counterintuitive to what we would expect from a transmission virology standpoint which would suggest that warmer temps/increased humidity should decrease the transmissibility of a respiratory virus.
Massive increase in testing. It’s as simple as that.
May 15th, mid May, we had 10.7 MM tests done. Today, less than a month later we’re over 21 MM.
May 15th the percent positive per test was 1,435,146/10,712,043=13.4%
June 8th the percent positive per test is 1,952,401/20,615,303=9.5%
For a disease which is known to be DRASTICALLY undervalued, seeing a 40% reduction in positive tests is pretty noticeable when you’ve effectively double your tests in a third of the time.
Explain drastic increase in hospitalizations then. Are we hospitalizing pts just b/c they test positive??
