When did we move on to the Minnesota tragedy? Let’s go back to the flu bug!
This isn’t a thread of women. We can multitask.
When did we move on to the Minnesota tragedy? Let’s go back to the flu bug!
This is something I tried just yesterday to explain to @nikkichavanelle. Unless you’ve been in or around nursing homes, you just have no idea the type of staff/nurses working those places. There’s usually a couple good ones and mostly just people getting a check. Most of them work too many hours because they’re under staffed, and then get burned out. Pay is usually better than a hospital because they have to pay to just get workers, it blows my mind they were sending all the people in Nursing homesThere’s not a good answer. Good caregivers aren’t lining up to work in a nursing home. Sure, there are some really good ones, but also a lot of them that are looking for a paycheck and going through the motions. I have been in good ones and I have been in ones that are a step below the county jail.
I hope I’m not giving the impression that I’m taking up for this guy. I’m not. The public pressure comment I made was for the simple fact I don’t think you should have to have public pressure to do the right thing.Innocent until proven guilty and all that, but this entire episode is on tape. Public pressure should definitely play a part. There needs to be a conviction of whatever they can get.
This guy is an ässhole. Every good cop should hate guys like him.
This is something I tried just yesterday to explain to @nikkichavanelle. Unless you’ve been in or around nursing homes, you just have no idea the type of staff/nurses working those places. There’s usually a couple good ones and mostly just people getting a check. Most of them work too many hours because they’re under staffed, and then get burned out. Pay is usually better than a hospital because they have to pay to just get workers, it blows my mind they were sending all the people in Nursing homes
This is something I tried just yesterday to explain to @nikkichavanelle. Unless you’ve been in or around nursing homes, you just have no idea the type of staff/nurses working those places. There’s usually a couple good ones and mostly just people getting a check. Most of them work too many hours because they’re under staffed, and then get burned out. Pay is usually better than a hospital because they have to pay to just get workers, it blows my mind they were sending all the people in Nursing homesThere’s not a good answer. Good caregivers aren’t lining up to work in a nursing home. Sure, there are some really good ones, but also a lot of them that are looking for a paycheck and going through the motions. I have been in good ones and I have been in ones that are a step below the county jail.
I hope I’m not giving the impression that I’m taking up for this guy. I’m not. The public pressure comment I made was for the simple fact I don’t think you shouldn’t have to have public pressure to do the right thing.
This is exactly the reason I said in a earlier post in this thread that it’s beyond ridiculous at this point for any officer to not have a body camera. It protects both the public and the officer.I didn't get that impression. Just commenting that I think this is one of those occasions where public pressure is justified due to a lack of mystery.
This is exactly the reason I said in a earlier post in this thread that it’s beyond ridiculous at this point for any officer to not have a body camera. It protects both the public and the officer.
Before there is further overreacting to this executive order and what it actually accomplishes (nothing...it was grievance politics. Trump knows he can't legally shut down Twitter), has it occurred to anybody that the most likely thing to happen (if ANYTHING happens) is that Trump is removed from Twitter?
Is that not literally a win for EVERYBODY (including Trump)?!?
Ya the reality is one lawsuit pays for cameras for most departments. Most lawsuits are settled out of court even if the officer is in the right because it’s cheaper to do so. With video evidence then most of those go away. On the flip side of the officer is wrong then it’s there for the world to see. I think it helps ease some of the distrust from the general public.Absolutely. Surely they’ve done studies on the cost of outfitting everyone with body cameras versus the costs of law suits —and burning shit down.
3) Nate Smith didn’t resign. He left for a better job. A college coach leaving for a pro job. Nobody thought Kingsbury sucked when he left Texas Tech - he took a more high profile job.
Interesting Take....Why do you think that?I think the minnesota death is just to separate the people even more.
I think the minnesota death is just to separate the people even more.
I am starting to think Trump may ditch Twitter and find other outlets to send his 5:00am messages while sitting on the sh!tterWell President Cheeto did it. He signed the executive order today:
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/28/8639...o-weaken-social-media-companies?origin=NOTIFY
or create their own, like he said in the article. ""I think I'd be hurting it very badly if we didn't use it anymore," Trump said from the White House. "We have other sites we can use, I guess, or we'd have to develop other sites."I am starting to think Trump may ditch Twitter and find other outlets to send his 5:00am messages while sitting on the sh!tter
Twitter would lose Trump and at least 1/4 of its members. If I had Twitter stock - I would sell. sell. sell
https://breaking911.com/breaking-ge...le-for-his-death-worked-together-report-says/So the cop should be convicted for premeditated murder then?
or create their own, like he said in the article. ""I think I'd be hurting it very badly if we didn't use it anymore," Trump said from the White House. "We have other sites we can use, I guess, or we'd have to develop other sites."
Can you imagine the shitshow if we started using a government run social media platform? Yeahhhhh no thanks lol
He didn't die until later I thought.“Allegedly” responsible for his death. Christ almighty look at that fake news. It’s on tape.
He didn't die until later I thought.
He didn't die until later I thought.
Last thing I read I believe said he was unresponsive when he arrived at the hospital.
There is body cam footage from the moment Floyd was apprehended to the moment he was unconscious on the ground.
Agree he should be prosecuted and let the justice system play out - the guy needs to pay for what he did no doubt. IYO -What do you think about the other three officers (Black, Asian, Hispanic)? I think they should be prosecuted as well...they should all get jail time. Every one of them should get prosecuted.There is body cam footage from the moment Floyd was apprehended to the moment he was unconscious on the ground.
I'll be the first to admit that Ferguson, MO was one of the biggest jokes ever played on America, but this MF needs to burn. He killed a man in the street, and it's not really open for debate unless you're really effing stupid.
Agree he should be prosecuted and let the justice system play out - the guy needs to pay for what he did no doubt. IYO -What do you think about the other three officers (Black, Asian, Hispanic)? I think they should be prosecuted as well...
Agree 100%. Its sickening...Prosecute all of them as accessories or however you do it. They could have intervened and did nothing.
At any point they should have (if not required to) step in. Instead they stood around and watched.Agree he should be prosecuted and let the justice system play out - the guy needs to pay for what he did no doubt. IYO -What do you think about the other three officers (Black, Asian, Hispanic)? I think they should be prosecuted as well...
Im not trying to justify what happened. If i did please point it outThere is body cam footage from the moment Floyd was apprehended to the moment he was unconscious on the ground.
I'll be the first to admit that Ferguson, MO was one of the biggest jokes ever played on America, but this MF needs to burn. He killed a man in the street, and it's not really open for debate unless you're really effing stupid.
Byg, you're smart enough to know where that post leads. We've had exchanges before, so i know you're not a stupid man. At best this is just stirring the pot.Im not trying to justify what happened. If i did please point it out
Where the media is taking it and what actually happened don't have to be the same.Byg, you're smart enough to know where that post leads. We've had exchanges before, so i know you're not a stupid man. At best this is just stirring the pot.
There is no plot. If the officer actually knew Floyd before this incident, it's even more damning for the cop. It possibly provides motive or intent, which jumps this to murder 1 in a hearbeat.
Watched the nine minute video today - man it was hard to watch...not a cop and don't pretend to know the procedures of an arrest, but once handcuffed seems like you would just pick the guy up and place in the car (or wherever). The whole thing stinks & my hope is the officers will be held accountable..At any point they should have (if not required to) step in. Instead they stood around and watched.
If a man is on the ground in the prone position with his hands handcuffed behind his back, he's in control. If at some point in that position he resists (he didn't), there are effective ways to control a subject that doesn't involve putting your knee and body weight on said subjects neck. I've seen soldiers court martialed for less.
I was a cop for 11 years and I hate second guessing anyone but from the short part of the video I watched I can’t see a reason to have your body weight on that man for that long after he is in cuffs. There was multiple other ways this thing could have been handled. Sit him on his ass with his legs crossed. He was in cuffs and there were multiple officers there. If they couldn’t handle him at that point then there is bigger issues.Watched the nine minute video today - man it was hard to watch...not a cop and don't pretend to know the procedures of an arrest, but once handcuffed seems like you would just pick the guy up and place in the car (or wherever). The whole thing stinks & my hope is the officers will be held accountable..
lol it has no choice but to grow when ur at the bottom lol. That’s a false argument. U made it sound like Obama has something to do with the trump economy. Which is laughable and propaganda fakenewsI didn't say it was growing to be the biggest in the world. I said growing. Classic goalpost moving Minny.
Quit speaking in vague innuendo and get to where to where you're going with this. What's your point?Where the media is taking it and what actually happened don't have to be the same.
Ya the reality is one lawsuit pays for cameras for most departments. Most lawsuits are settled out of court even if the officer is in the right because it’s cheaper to do so. With video evidence then most of those go away. On the flip side of the officer is wrong then it’s there for the world to see. I think it helps ease some of the distrust from the general public.
Where the media is taking it and what actually happened don't have to be the same.
The most recent influenza data we have in Arkansas is from 4/11. At that time, in the period between 9/29/19 and 4/11/20, there were 20 PCR + flu deaths (this would be equivalent to someone dying from COVID19 with a “positive COVID test”, which is also a PCR based test - ie a test that identifies genetic material from the virus in the body above a certain threshold) and we have 98 deaths which list influenza on the death certificate with or without a “positive” flu antigen test - which would be the rapid test done in the doctors’ office. Less reliable. Unfortunately they don’t break down who was antigen positive and who was presumptively identified as having influenza. As I have said before there is going to be some delay in reporting, but the saving grace here is that in most years, influenza deaths/diagnoses/paid claims come to a screeching halt in mid April. So for a 6.5 month period this year when the influenza virus was present, 118 people presumably died (if anyone wants to inject inflation of numbers now would be a good time since only 1/6 of those deaths would meet the criteria that have been applied to COVID19).But it hasnt caused more deaths in Arkansas and alot of other states. So if it is much more contagious than influenza but we have less deaths from it wouldn't it be safe to say it is alot less deadly? That if you caught both you would be more likely to die from influenza than covid? Am I correct?