He lied either way. His false confession (if it was false) was more damaging to this nation then what he supposedly lied about.
He’s a POS
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He lied either way. His false confession (if it was false) was more damaging to this nation then what he supposedly lied about.
He’s a POS
Gotta protect the Supreme Leader.
Anything really. Speak about policy changes, use words that aren’t threatening the country, don’t forcefully remove peaceful protestors for a photo op... those kinda things.
How many distinguished people need to come out and say the guy is a con man before people start believing it. You think guys like Mattis who have dedicated their life to this country come out with statements today just to spite our President? No, he meant them.
To admit he is wrong is to admit they were wrong, and unfortunately a lot of people don't seem to be capable of doing that.
There is nothing he can do except make things worse. I know you have benefited from his presidency and I don’t blame you for supporting him, I would too in your position. He is a piss poor leader and shit person though. That’s why he can’t lead us through this.
*deflection* his loyalty is supposed to be to the constitution and the troops, not the deep state. He’s Benedict Arnold, who was also a great general and turned on George Washington. The irony.
Mattis is a pos for leaving a man behind and not supporting his colleague or the constitution. Piss on his grave.
People see it that way but it’s wrong. If you voted for Trump, you can still criticize him.
If this ain’t the truth. Watching Obama today on his video chat makes it hard to believe we used to have President’s that could complete full sentences.
Lol, he is sticking up for the military by not allowing Kim Jong Trump to turn them against We The People and destroy trust in both the military and our government.
His loyalty is to the constitution and to the country, not to the president. That's why he's speaking out. You are incapable of shame or considering that you might be wrong, there's no point in arguing with you.
Quite possible the dumbest comment I’ve ever read on this board.
Mattis was an amazing hire until Trump got rid of him, now he’s “in the deep state”.
I just woke up my daughter from laughing so hard.
So Mattis is a great guy purely because of his service, and Flynn is a lying POS. Saying hateful divisive words is ok unless youre president. Apparently, all the protests are about Trump and the people are waiting on him to say something. Im learning some good stuff here guys, keep it going
Gosh I know, it's like we used to have high expectations for the behavior of the president or something. Crazy.
Im Not going to get into a back and forth but I’ll respond here.
First off, I don’t like the way Trump has handled this at all, or most things when he speaks TBH, I’ve said this many times. I love how he goes after our corrupt government and media, they deserve it and are 100x the dividers of this country than trump ever thought of being.
The facts show that under Trump, police shooting of unarmed blacks or any race are way down from Obama, so maybe he’s done something there, I honestly don’t know. There were 10 instances against black people in 2019 compared to like 40 in 2015.
Trump didn’t direct anyone to forcefully remove anyone for his DA walk to the church, but I guess it happened while he’s president so we should hold him accountable for everything that happens, if that’s how you want to go about it.
Conman. You won’t find many successful people in business that don’t have that said about them, but let’s assume it’s true. Has it cost you anything? Did the conman Obama drive up your healthcare cost and boldface lie to the nation about it, knowing he was lying about it for support?
I could go pick apart people Obama fired and show you the bad they’ve said about him, probably from Mattis himself considering Obama also fired Mattis.
Threatening words. I agree he has no idea how to express himself in the right manor to most Americans, but the burning down of cities, killing innocent people, and everything that has been happening, there needs to be sometype of strong response or words. These weakass Dem governors and Mayors haven’t done their jobs in protecting people, property, etc. I have a good feeling I know why they haven’t, it’s not just a coincidence, but either way, it’s wrong, so as President he should use strong language from afar, any smart person knows there is no perfect speech to stop it.
Obama’s perfect speeches didn’t stop it, Trumps wasn’t either. Obama’s message today is practically a rerun from his years in office when he never did a thing about it.
It’s hilarious at this point. Everyone who speaks out against Trump or openly disagrees with him suddenly becomes terrible people. It’s a cult.
@eezycheez I saw you calling Flynn a POS. I think that pretty shitty of you tbh.
Read the transcripts, all of it, not your Dem opinion pieces. Tell me what he deliberately lied about. Then after you figure out that he didn’t lie about anything. Ask yourself why would he then plead guilty, in which you then say he lied and is a POS for doing that. Oh, so he lied either way stupid shit.
Come on man, the guy had lost everything, didn’t want his family and son to also have to go through BS. Wake the freak up man. You should be defending the guy if you’re any type of the military person you say you are. Flynn was treated as bad as any vet has ever been treated.
Read the transcripts, all of it, not your Dem opinion pieces. Tell me what he deliberately lied about. Then after you figure out that he didn’t lie about anything. Ask yourself why would he then plead guilty, in which you then say he lied and is a POS for doing that. Oh, so he lied either way stupid shit.
Come on man, the guy had lost everything, didn’t want his family and son to also have to go through BS. Wake the freak up man. You should be defending the guy if you’re any type of the military person you say you are. Flynn was treated as bad as any vet has ever been treated.
Puts family in positions of power, takes constant trips to his own property to be charged on govt dime, hosting G7 at his own property again profiting off govt affairs, refuses to release tax info to get a better idea of potential conflicts of interest, has fired multiple inspector generals whose job it is to provide oversight and prevent issues of corruption, and this is all just off the top of my head... the list is much, much larger than that
All of these week ass governors need to get control of the forces they have. I keep seeing hordes of cops waiting for the right time to “disperse” peaceful crowds while rioting and looting seems to rage out of control in other areas. Shitty waste of manpower. And Trump wants to use the active duty military to violate American’s rights because the police and government can’t lead this nation. **** that.
Thats kind of the point of the curfew, to get the law abiding citizens out of the way and help cops do their jobs more efficiently.
Almost everything you said here is false and what isn’t false I could prove that others have done the same while president or as politicians.
Stop feeding into the fake news
I can agree with some of that, and I’m in bed so I won’t go into much detail, but the difference between the two is Obama actually TRIED to calm the country down by talking to them, Trump has done the opposite(in my opinion obviously). The President is the leader of the country, and Trump has done a piss poor job of leading during a time of crisis.
Nice try, appealing to my service will get you nowhere with me. The fact is he lied either way. Any military person is trained to maintain honor under interrogation. Flynn did not. This idea that Mattis is suddenly a bad guy for not sticking up for Flynn is absurd.
Your first sentence is exactly what Trump has said from the start, yet they refuse to and is why he’s threatened to use military, that’s not violating American rights. There’s 2 sides to that argument. According to poles, there is a massive approval for using military if the weakass mayors and governors won’t do their jobs.
I see both sides of that. To protesters it’s an attempt to invade their right to protest how and when they choose. Again, a lot of the rioting and looting seems to be happening in other locations. Why do they need so many cops at a peaceful protest?
Which recent presidents didn't release their tax info? Are Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump not heavily involved in his administration? Is G7 not at Doral? Did he not fire the inspector generals? Does he not go to the "winter White House" all the time? Lol literally every one of those things is true, so tell me who's spouting the fake news?
I’m not wrong. Several of the things you’ve mentioned have been proven wrong and not buy opinion news but bye the government.
You figure it out yourself, you might learn something.
The police chiefs and such need to do their jobs. Deploy your forces to riots instead of peaceful protests.
And I’m calling bs on support of active duty. Maybe Trumps staunchest base supports it but most of the nation would not.
"I can prove that what you said is wrong" - @futurehawgdad9
"Figure it out yourself" - @futurehawgdad9 2 minutes later
Also I just want to say I'm impressed you managed to misuse "by" in not one, but two different ways in the same sentence. But I know it was a typo so just giving you a hard way to go.
Peaceful protests can turn unruly pretty quickly. Why do people need to be out at 1 am just walking down the middle of the street? Im watching this stuff now and there is no chanting, no signs being held, its just a bunch of white dudes hanging out shooting the bull. I just think they are in the way more than anything. People are gathering all day long, i dont think its unreasonable to ask them to stay home at the time of day the psychos come out
That’s ****ing weak man. The weakest shit ever, do better. I’m not talking about Mattis sticking up for Flynn, but the rest.
After spemding 3MM in lawyer fees, being completely bankrupt + and being threatened to go after my children, i would have pleaded guilty to just about anything to make it stop, but thats just me
Exactly. It’s not hard to understand that if you give a shit about your family. Plead guilty, at worst spend a couple months in jail.
I would’ve though any person that had been in service would be as pissed as possible to know they could be treated that way by the government you helped protect.
